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Dino 246 Tire selection

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  1. dm_n_stuff

    dm_n_stuff Global Moderator
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    Looking for some input on tire selection for my Dino. The XWX Michelins are about $280 each, and only an "H" rated tire anyway. Anyone out there have a modern replacement they are happy with?

    Also size: has anyone out there swapped the 205/70 for a 195/60-14?

    Finally, I have an extra set of wheels that I want to get refinished. Paint/clearcoat/bake or powdercoat?

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  2. carl888

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    Dave, the Michelin XWX is a "V" rated tyre. Pirelli also make a 205/70-14 in a V, it's a P-4000 from memory. I have not tested them on a 246 so I cannot comment. You could also try a Pirelli 215/65-14 P-6000, they will be fine on the 6 1/2" rims but I don't suggest you go wider. These work well on a Dino.

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    Whoops, Dave, the 195/60's you suggest will reduce the gearing, do you want to do this? Carl.
     
  4. dm_n_stuff

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    Probably about a 10% reduction. Would prefer not to, but there seems to be considerably more selection at the 60 size, and I don't lose any tread width.


    Mechanic @ Algar in Bryn Mawr suggested that the XWX compared more to a modern "H" rated tire. Guess he was mistaken.

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    Dave,

    When fresh, the XWX is pretty grippy, the treadwear index is just 100, a P-Zero is 140 and a Yokohama 032R is 60 as an example. Does your car carry the 6 1/2 or 7 1/2" wheels? If the 7 1/2, you could go to a 225/60-14 no problem, but dino's can feel a bit ponderous with 225's on the front.

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  6. dm_n_stuff

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    6 1/2", no flares. I have XWX's now, but they are very tired. I think the 205/70 is the best bet. But the 195-205/60 would work too. Tread and tire width are within .2" of the 205, and should fit.

    I have a set of Sumitomo HTR200's that I'm going to run for a while, but, I'm looking at all options for the long term. I have Sumitomo HTR Z's on my 911, and they have been excellent handling tires. So I figured I'd give them a try on the Dino, but, never hurts to get a 2nd, 3rd and 4th opinion from guys who have had Dino's for a while.
     
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    I would go with what an experienced painter recommends on the wheel paint. A number of folks posted of issues with paint bubbling on magnesium 308/328 wheels after a few months to a year after refinishing. Most used supposedly good outfits. My friendly painter says preperation is the key, and any slight error will cause the problems they experienced.
     
  8. dm_n_stuff

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    I got two professional opinions here. Ferrari Dealer (Algar) says, "paint, clearcoat, bake is very sturdy, seen several that last very well." My British Car restoration guy (Cloverleaf Racing) says "Powdercoat, it lasts forever. Won't chip, ding, etc."

    Guess I was looking for experience with the powdercoat, as it looks good, maybe a little thick, but sure is bullet proof.

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    Dave,

    I have Michelin XWX 205 70VR14s on my GTB. They are indeed V-rated and made in France by Michelin's Vintage Tire Division. They're nice, when fresh. I know Coker Tire has just received a fresh supply of XWXs.

    The Pirelli P-4000s are H-rated for the US market. They were V-rated for the European market about two years ago when I was looking for new tires. Check with your local large tire dealer as he might be able to order the Euro Pirellis for you. I wound up getting the XWXs which were original equipment on my car.

    Barry
     

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