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  1. omgjon

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    #276 omgjon, Jun 7, 2006
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    Here is a photo of the brace, there is also one one the right. You can see the corner of the fiberglass I had to cut out.
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  2. dignini

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    Thank you very much, I'll check mine out and report back.
     
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  4. need4speed

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    Jon,

    I believe the originals are magnesium. Hence lighter than aluminum.

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    Ditto
     
  6. need4speed

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    Jon,

    That's awesome that you posted the weights. When I see pics of Dinos with larger wheels, I've often wondered what the weight differences would be to upsize. And the subsequent affects on handling and ride. I know these numbers don't account for tires. But it's nice to get a feel for the wheels. There are some 17" wheels out there that weigh as little as the Cromodoras!
     
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    Jon or anyone else who might know?,

    I am trying to get the front inner tub out of my car (74 gts) so iv'e cut the corners off to allow it past the bracing struts but seems to foul on drivers side on a combination of trunk opening handle bracket/steering columm bracet and throttle stop bracket. do i have to grind off the throttle stop and trunk handle brackets or am i missing something here??????????

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  8. omgjon

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    I had to trim about a half inch off fiberglass so it would clear the steering mount. There was also a bracket I cut off to the right of the steering support to be welded back later. It is a tight fit. I took a rubber mallet and gave it a few wacks. I also removed any of that nasty putty like stuff where it contacts the structural braces. Then it slipped out.
     
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    I decided a while back to do the flares as I have the original campagnolas wheels now. Just for any purist out there, you can document that this car originally did not have flares. I'm not trying to hide the fact. Am doing them the same way Ferrari put them on I believe. Which was to cut the lip off. weld a sheetmetal flare in with the edges pre rolled. Got one front tacked in place today. Measurements were taken from an original flares car. It was amazing what the difference was in a factory car between the left side and right side. One side was a half inch lower than the other and the wheel openings differed by a least that much also.
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  10. synchro

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    Magnesium is porous, meaning you'll have air loss through the metal when teh tires are mounted/pressurized.
    Perhaps coating the inside with a sealant will halt that loss.
     
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    Great job, but yes it will upset some people out there!. Have you rolled the edges around wire as per the originals?
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  12. omgjon

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    Of course.... although there was only wire on the fronts.. none in the rears(on my non flare car). Maybe the rear fiberglass inner fenders take the place as they go into the seam.
     
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    I almost put flares on my car. But I never liked the flatness of the factory flares so I was contemplating more curvaceous flares. Anyways, to each his own.
     
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    Please don't do that to the black one :)
     
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    #291 abstamaria, Jun 15, 2006
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    The flares look well done and, if one already has a standard Dino, would be nice on a second one for contrast.

    Just to note - one probably doesn't need flares to cover the extra width of the Campagnolos. This is my car with original Campagnolos. Note the tires do not go beyond the standard flares.

    Warm regards to all.
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    Wow, I would not have the balls to cut off the fenders and weld on flares!!! I'm sure it's going to come out great, but I'm wincing right now!!

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  18. omgjon

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    Hey, that's how they did it at the factory-it's just metal! And by looking at the rest of their work I believe I can do at least their level of work and hopefully better. The only difference between these flares and originals is that these are symetrical on this car.
     
  19. dignini

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    I saw Maranello Concessionaires in the UK adding flares pretty much like this, stood fascinated in the doorway for about an hour....wondering what they were up to.
     
  20. jselevan

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    Jon - "...In matters of opinion, debate is meaningless..." I like the flares, and that you are modifying the front directionals, originality is not an issue. Enjoy your work. I am quite impressed with your handiwork. I could never do that.

    By the way, I am off the rotisserie, and the engine should go in today.

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  21. ferrari dino

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    Any thoughts on taking out the roll bar and making it like a 275 NART sypder?
     
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    Jon - engine in Stop No problems Stop Will fire-up tomorrow Stop More to come Stop

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    consider my grumbles heard.

    non-the-less, excellent progress on the dino and most likely at a higher quality than when delivered.
     
  24. synchro

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    By cutting off the standard angled edge, aren't the flares now too high at the arch peak?
     
  25. omgjon

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    No they are not to high. I made a template of an original car and that's where they are cut. The flares do angle down a bit which makes up for some of the difference.
     

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