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  1. HMB-Dino

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    #1 HMB-Dino, Mar 26, 2011
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    I've placed 2-3 orders with Superformance since acquiring my 71 GT Euro and the order I received today is the second time I've received something different than what I ordered. The item in question this time is a new Dino GT script. These are not cheap ($100 + shipping from UK), so it's very, very annoying when I don't get what I ordered. As you can see by the attached images, my original script (pic #1) is the same or `close enough' to the item I ordered as shown by the item picture on the SF site (pic #2). But compare those to what I received (pic #3 and pic #4) and the differences are obvious.

    I know a lot of people swear by SF and that is why I've paid the price to order across the pond. But this is a real pain when you get something different than what is described/shown on the vendor site.

    Any helpful comments or suggestions? I assume that the script they sent me is totally incorrect for my Dino and since I'm carefully correcting/upgrading it for a couple Concours, these mistakes are aggravating to say the least.

    Just to be clear, I'm not saying the `switch' was done intentionally, but it speaks volumes to their quality control/inventory management when they ship out the wrong thing. As I said at the start, I've had this type of problem with 2 of 3 orders with them. And yes, I've sent them an email with pictures asking how they plan to fix this mistake.
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  2. champtc

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    I see nearly no difference- but I am not a concours guy. I have dealt with them for years and although a few minor mistakes (really not many at all) they have always been marvelous to deal with . I think they are fair guys as well that try to do the right thing. I would speak with Ron- he works mon- weds - always first class. I would be surprised if you dont end up having a great experience with them.
     
  3. HMB-Dino

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    The obvious difference that I noticed right away was the round dot over the eye vs the diamond shape `dot'. There's a couple other differences, but those are really minor (rounder top of the "D", shorter flat extension at bottom left of the "D", flatter section left of the top of the "g").

    I'm hoping they have the item I actually expected so it will be resolved quickly. And they did replace the wrong item sent in a previous order very much to my satisfaction.
     
  4. dignini

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    could it from the 308?
     
  5. HMB-Dino

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    SF only offers a Dino GT script for the 246.
     
  6. velocetwo

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    Maybe a anomaly, possible over-plating or dirt entrapment prior to plating, I would ask to see a picture of another script. Maybe the vendor messed up his tooling.
     
  7. dignini

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    quite right, the other reads 308gt4, however the diamond dot is the same!
     
  8. Dino Club Germany

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    I just send you pictures of an NOS Dino GT script.
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  9. Nuvolari

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    I've got to say that your thread title is well off the mark and is typical of the type of crap I have to deal with in my business on a day to day basis. You are unhappy with your purchase and go on a public forum before even giving the vendor a chance to make good. Problem is that even if Superformance comes back with a stellar solution, this thread will continue to exist and the reality is that people look at the title and maybe the first post even if you post somwehere way down that it was all an honest mistake. Unless you can honestly claim to being without fault of your own I suggest, in future, a more humble approach before shouting fire and then re-canting it later.

    On the subject of Superformance, they have such a strong following because of their good service and prices. In addition they have a wide variety of parts that are of high quality offering a huge savings and convenience over tracking down small batches of NOS parts scattered around the world for extraordinary money. The downside is that for the fanatically anal (and I am one of them) some of their parts are not concours correct and it is only through trial and error that you can be sure sometimes. Fact is that their return policy and good nature make it easy to pick and choose. Good luck returning parts to some of the 'other' vendors out there the way you can with SF.

    Lastly, on the subject of this particular part, the difference is minor and would never be picked up by any concours judge. This is something I'm certain of. That said, you want your car one way and should have it any way you like but to question Superformance's 'quality control' is absurd. If you have any experience in dealing with some of the Italian manufacturers of parts, even if they are using the OEM molds and are the OEM supplier, they could care less about originality. For all we know the original mold was damaged just before the last casting and the easiest fix was to round out the dot in the 'i'. It is unrealistic to assume that every piece of new inventory should be controlled next to a concours correct control sample and you can be sure that the supplier could not be bothered to inform anyone that the tool was changed.

    Rant over.
     
  10. abstamaria

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    I took a quick look at the badge on my car, which I assume to be original, and then a badge I bought from Superformance some time ago and stored. They seem identical, and the shape of the dot on the Superformance item is correct. Superformance will probably replace your badge if you point the anomaly out.

    Perhaps you can ask the forum administrator to change your title for the thread (to "Dino replacement badge" possibly), as the current title does imply malice on the part of Superformance. It is a useful thread as it does tell us to look at replacement badges a bit more carefully.

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  11. HMB-Dino

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    #11 HMB-Dino, Mar 27, 2011
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    In retrospect I agree that the thread title is a bit harsh and if I had the ability to change it once posted, I would (seems you can edit post text, but not post title). Many of SP's parts do not have pictures on their site. If that was the case here, then I would not have an issue with receiving something other than what I expected/assumed. But there's NO excuse when they have a picture of the part on their site and what they ship is different than the picture associated with that part number. So either their web site needs to change to show a correct picture or they need to ship what they show. I cannot excuse that kind of error and I can't believe you would defend that kind of mistake. That mistake on their part wastes me (and them) time and money.

    As I stated, I'm hoping they will ship me the correct item, assuming they even have it (of course I would ship back the wrong one), but if they don't have what they show on their site, then it forces me to source the part elsewhere.

    In a previous order they shipped me the wrong (cheaper) item and charged me for the (more expensive, more correct) one I ordered. Yes, they corrected their mistake, but it wasted time. In another instance I ordered LH and RH trunk hinges and they only shipped me one. It wasn't until I got the order and pointed out that the order was incomplete that they informed me they no longer had the other trunk hinge. No excuses for not informing me of that prior to shipment since hinges really come in pairs. So now that I think of it, all 3 of the orders I've placed with them (all in the last 6mos) have had issues. Perhaps I've just been incredibly unlucky with my SP orders, but in my book that doesn't provide a positive experience...even if they correct the mistakes.

    P.S. I have sent a msg to forum moderator to request a thread title change.
     
  12. HMB-Dino

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    The pictures clearly show that all the fault resides with SP. They sent me a different part than what their site shows for the p/n I ordered. Bottom line is that the mistake is entirely on SP's side.
     
  13. thecarreaper

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    had nothing but good experiences with SuperPerfomance. Just ordered a ton of stuff for my new to me 328.
     
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    I think we can all agree that every supplier is gonna make a mistake now and then.

    Emphasis on mistake.

    As in error.

    As in non-intentional.

    Based on the general performance we seen from these guys, I think this is an aberration, and easily remedied. I'm sure the guys at superformance will step up.

    If they don't, then a thread showing the small differences in the original and replacement would be warranted. I don't think "bait and switch" is appropriate in either circumstance.

    Hopefully a moderator will wander along and fix the thread title.

    I have had nothing short of excellent transactions with the guys at Superformance, and suspect they'll fix this first thing Monday.

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  15. El Wayne

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    Didn't get the PM, but thread title changed just the same.
     
  16. velocetwo

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    What else would you expect, your customers are buying expensive parts for expensive cars. They have been sold on the idea that these cars are "extra special" Their cars are scrutinized by judges that look for perfection.
     
  17. dignini

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    When it was never there in the first place!
     
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    Just to clarify, I have no problems with picky customers and do my best to accomodate everyone. What I have a problem with are customers who publically call foul against a company and or its products before trying to sort things out in private first. That is the 'crap' I was referring to.

    Also perfection means many things to many people and consumer education sometimes plays a big role as to what is acceptable and what is not. Years ago I worked at a Home Depot type place and I had an irate customer who called our plywood JUNK because he could not find two pieces with exactly the same grain pattern!
     
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    And folks may wonder why my website says " Closed Indefinitely"


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  20. dignini

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    #20 dignini, Mar 27, 2011
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    I'm in the kitchen remodeling business; it ain't getting better and it ain't gonna change! Educating customers as to what is reasonable for them to expect, means the difference between happiness and misery.
     
  21. HMB-Dino

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    I'll state it one last time; the issue I have is a vendor showing one item on their web site and shipping the customer something that clearly is different. Descriptions can be (mis)interpreted, but a picture sets a clear expectation of what you're supposed to get.

    For those in manufacturing, if a part doesn't adhere to the form/fit/function rule it's not the same part. The part shipped to me does not adhere to the `form' attribute and so it shouldn't be shipped in its place w/o the vendor making the effort to say "we don't have that exact item in stock right now, but we have something close. Here's a picture of it and let us know if that is an acceptable alternative." That resets expectations up front and gives the customer the opportunity to cancel that part of their order so neither party has to deal with possible return shipping across the pond, which is a lose-lose for both.

    I wouldn't continue to order from Superformance if it weren't for their selection and reputation. When available, you get the items fast, although I find their shipping rates high ($50 for a large envelope of lightweight parts for this last order).

    Oh, and by the way, a moderator did change the thread title for me this morning...thank you!
     
  22. HMB-Dino

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    Didn't send a PM, I sent an email to the admin address.
     
  23. dm_n_stuff

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    I'd 'expect' a decent customer to give me an opportunity to rectify the situation before he cut me to pieces on a website read by 100's of potential customers.

    Reverse places with this vendor. If you had been the subject of the original post on a forum that has your customer base visiting it regularly, would you be happy with it? More importantly, would you be inclined, now that the damage is done, to rush to help that customer with his problem? I never cease to be amazed at the willingness of folks to dump **** all over people without any consideration at all, or any opportunity to make it right. It's just possible that they don't know that the image on the website is different from their current batch of name plates.

    Tell ya what, Superformance will make it right for you, if my experience with them is an indicator.

    They shipped me the wrong set of springs for my Dino. I called them, and they priority shipped me replacements the next day no charge. Told me what the other set of springs was for, then told me to sell them to a friend or on ebay rather than return them to reimburse me for my trouble.

    Based on that, I doubt they'd risk their reputation on a trim piece, but I could be wrong.

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  24. velocetwo

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    No I totally agree that a phone call or email needed to be sent before it ends up here. I have a retail store and I get some customers that are never happy. in this F car world the expectations are extremely high and I could see it being difficult to deal with many of the customers.
     
  25. HMB-Dino

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    Update:
    Superformance just responded to my Saturday email after checking their inventory and confirmed that they only have the item style which they sent me (ie, no mixed inventory) and that this is the only type their supplier can provide. They also intend to correct their web site, acknowledging that it shows the wrong version of the DinoGT badge.

    And yes, as I and everybody else expected, they're happy to take the badge I received back for credit. Now I'm off to find the correct version (ie, duplicate of what my Dino came with) from other sites, starting with Dennis McCann who provides a picture of the badge.
     

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