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Dino v Ferrari badging 308 gt4

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  1. 1961GTE

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    Hope this isn't one of those "recurring" questions - I've searched the forums but couldn't find a relevant thread. I currently own a Sessanta and a 365 Gt4 2+2. I love them - they're "different" Ferraris with 4 seats, something I like. I am going to buy a 308 (or 208) gt4. Before I do, any views from you all who know better than me on whether the post 76 Ferrari badging makes any substantial different to values and/or collectibility compared with the earlier Dino badging? Again apologies if this appears elsewhere. If it does, please feel free to direct me. Thanks for any thoughts.
     
  2. NoGoSlow

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    People tried to downplay the Dino badging and emphasize the Ferrari heritage for years. It was enough of a problem that Ferrari issued a Service Bulletin in January of 2015 that gave detailed instructions on placement of a Ferrari badge above the Dino badge on the front of 308 GT4s.

    The Dino 308 GT4 met with a lot of resistance when it was launched. In my mind, the items that were perceived as negatives at the time were:

    1. Not a "real" Ferrari...
    2. Not a V12, but a V8... and it's behind the driver.
    3. Not swoopy, curvy, and stunning, like the Dino 246.
    4. Not a Pininfarina design.

    Unlike all the traditional Pininfarina designs, it's the only Ferrari penned by Bertone. And, horror of horrors, it was "wedgy".

    As a result, Ferrari released a Service Bulletin in January 1975 that gave details on re-branding the car to Ferrari logos. The actual dropping of the Dino brand occurred with the Series 2 cars in 1976, although the "Dino 308 GT4" badge continued to live on the trunk lid.

    So, in answer to your question, until recent years the Dino brand was a neutral or negative factor. More recently, though, the Dino 246 models have gained a lot of value based on their sheer beauty and (perhaps) the rarity of the Dino brand. There has been a drag-along effect on the early 308 GT4s, although not to the same extent.

    My 1975 GT4 was rebranded in the 1970s, and the Dino badge was removed entirely. I will return it to the original badging if/when I redo the outside. Your mileage may vary. :)
     
  3. absostone

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    I put my 75 series1 back to Dino in 2002. Rear script,front nose badge , and wheel centers. I only left the little horse on the back next to the tail lights and the horse on the horn button.
     
  4. 2281GT

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    No, original Dino badged GT4 is valued equal to original Ferrari badged GT4. Originality is the point that counts. A 1974 GT4 with horses is worth less than one with Dino badges and a 1979 GT4 with Dino badges is worth less than one Ferrari badged one.

    Only for 308 GT4 ! The 208 GT4 has to have only Dino badges - no matter what year.
     
  5. 1961GTE

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    Really useful information. Thanks to all for the thoughts. I'll let you know how I get on. Sean
     
  6. Fave

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    No offence but this is nonsense. There is no difference in value as to how a GT4 is valued when it comes to badges. There was such poor record keeping with these cars. Very few people know when their early cars were rebranded unless they happen to be the original owner, happen to have all the paper work from day one, or its original paint, all rare in each case.

    I have never heard of one car being sold for less because of this, or even being a point of topic other than a brief question on the history of the car, and I've seen allot of these cars being sold over the years. Mine is a 74 with a mix of badges. Originally from Italy imported to the US in 78 in the grey market, probably rebranded at that point, maybe later, who knows...

    I would think that it's only an issue if the car has been fully restored and the wrong badges were put on it, and even then I doubt it would make much of a difference.
     
  7. 2281GT

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    Sorry, but same back to you, Fave.

    I've seen many, many GT4 owners who spend at least 5k EUR/USD (and more) only for a "new nose" to get "rebadged".
    Maybe in US it's different to the EU market, but in europe it is important, if the car is original or tinkered. That is - for sure - only for good cars, not for rubbish.
    A (wrong , not original) rebadged car is not original. That's the point.
     
  8. Fave

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    It must be a different market, original is rare here, they have all being tinkered with and most resprayed red. You would have a hell of a time finding one for sale here. A good driver is hard to find, never mind the badge.

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  9. 2281GT

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    OK, consensus !

    Cheers !
     
  10. Dom

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    Here in Californa, 1975 models are considered more desirable since they are smog exempt. Badging doesn't really matter, as far as I can tell. I do think most would prefer the original badging, but as was mentioned above, finding a decent driver would be the bigger issue.
     

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