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Dino246, then 328 GTS, now THIS!!!

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by audionut, Mar 26, 2004.

  1. audionut

    audionut Formula Junior

    Apr 25, 2003
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    Adrian Low
    Hi all,
    Just wanted to post that I have just become the very happy new owner of an 86 TR Norwood Twin Turbo TARGA! Yes, this is the one Robert Klein wrote about a few days ago. the seller, Charles Larman, has been an absolute gentleman and above board in every way during this transaction.

    Car was purchased by him in 86, then sent to Straman for a Targa conversion. Charles hates closed top cars! Then between May 95 and June 96, the car was sent to Norwood for the Twin Turbo conversion. don't know the exact RWHP, but Charles remembers it to be around 900hp. There is a nitrous system but has apparently never been used. Maintenance has been down by Continental Auto Sports in Hinsdale, Il. Interior was changed to Blood Red using factory Connolly leather to reflect the owner's preference. Exterior is black. Car has 27,007 actual miles, only 5000 since the Norwood conversion. Charles has a stable of amazing cars, including an F40 he sold 2 years ago to Chris Parr. He is apparently waiting for delivery of a BEntley Continental GT, and already has plans for that baby!

    I am flying to pick up the car tomorrow and driving approx 550 miles home...nice way to get acquainted! Will post pics once I figure how to do so!

    Leakdown and inspection shows the car to be in amazing condition, less than 1% variance in all cylinders.

    Special thanks to RJKlein, who put the word out, and was instrumental in aiding the purchase process, the good folks at Norwood (both companies!), who spent a lot of time enlightening me about the process, conversion, pros and cons etc, Robert Calisi for all his help and advice about importing into Canada, and Charles, who has been wonderfully patient and generous.

    CAN'T WAIT!!!!!
     
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  3. callaides

    callaides Formula Junior

    Mar 10, 2004
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    Wow, congratulations on the purchase. It's gonna be like Christmas in your house...
     
  4. AJS328

    AJS328 F1 Veteran
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    Adrian,

    Congrats! That's a hell of a stable you're gonna have there. Good luck with the new purchase. I can't wait to see the pics!
     
  5. Mako99

    Mako99 Formula Junior
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    What's that sound I hear from the rear of the car...tick...tick...tick...tick...

    EVERYONE CLEAR OUT THERE'S A TIME BOMB IN THAT ENGINE BAY! :)

    Seriously just kidding, Norwood is a hot topic on F-chat, lots of spirited discussion about that shop. But if you're happy with it then that's all that matters. Congrats and enjoy in good health!
     
  6. audionut

    audionut Formula Junior

    Apr 25, 2003
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    Thanks guys. Really looking forward to having fun with this beast! The engine was rebuilt, with stronger rods, internals, sleeves, intercoolers etc. Engine management is a Motec M48(?), completely software adjusted for proper boost so the the driver cannot easily screw it up. Racing clutch was installed, along with new gears. The previous owner doesn't seem to be a drag racer type, just loves to customize and boost the potential of his cars. Only thing I will do later is add bigger brakes.

    Mako, you're a little ****! (JK!!!) Hell, you only live once, and from all accounts, this car is really well built. And if it does blow up, you can be a pall bearer!
     
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  8. Mako99

    Mako99 Formula Junior
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    LOL, nice!
     
  9. TigerAce

    TigerAce Formula 3

    May 29, 2003
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    Congrat, Adrian
    You beat me to it. I got Charles phone number 3 days ago, as I was interested, too. $50K for that car is very good, and Norwood is near my home (about 20-30 min.). I love the color combo, too. I'm working on a deal on another car right now, if it didn't turn out, I was going to call him!

    Let me know how your trip back home turn out!

    Yoshi
     
  10. carguy

    carguy F1 Rookie

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    I'm very happy to hear an fchatter bought that car. At that price I was seriously debating on going after it myself. I couldn't easily afford another TR, but at that price you'd be fool to let it slip away. Just awesome! That is just a fantastic deal !!
     
  11. bernardo66

    bernardo66 The Crazy Cat Man
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    Dec 14, 2003
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    Talk is cheap!!!!! We want photo's!!!!!!
     
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  13. tbakowsky

    tbakowsky F1 World Champ
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    Hi Adrian..I guess were going to have to have an up close look at that one aren't we!!

    Congrats on the car!!

    (I gues I know why you didn't make it to the shop today!!)

    Tom
     
  14. Doody

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    where are the damn pictures, dude!?!?!?!!?!?

    congrats!

    doody.
     
  15. audionut

    audionut Formula Junior

    Apr 25, 2003
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    Thanks everyone. I am really stoked about this. Plan to really use it most of the year until the weather gets really bad.

    Tom, I will see you next Monday...in the rain predicted! I will post pics as soon as I take them tomorrow, after I get back.

    Good to see you on this board Yoshi...hope your search goes well.

    Doody, next stop a 550!!!

    Got to build a bigger garage now.
     
  16. cinquevalvole

    cinquevalvole Formula 3

    Feb 6, 2004
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    "900hp" ? Waaoouuuu!
    How is the chassis done stiff enough for so many horses?
    Get a picture it in your profile please :)

    Congrats!

    cinquevalvole
     
  17. Eric308gtsiqv

    Eric308gtsiqv Formula 3

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    Congrats, Adrian! Great to hear that you purchased that awesome machine. Wow, that's going to be some drive home! Enjoy :)
     
  18. thecarreaper

    thecarreaper F1 World Champ
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    wow wow wow!!!!! cant wait to see pic of the whole stable of horsies!!! did i read the thread wrong ??!! $50k????? my gawd!!!! what a deal!!! with all the cheap TR's and 348's maybe a euro 308 will fall out of the sky in my lap!!!! congrats on a great car!
     
  19. wax

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  20. audionut

    audionut Formula Junior

    Apr 25, 2003
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    Updates: the car has just received a major tuneup, done by our very own Tom Bakowski. Belts were about 9 years old, a little age worn but didn't seem stretched or cracked. Mind you, the previous owner drove only 5000 miles or so after the last belt change. Also did a couple of hoses, spark plugs and wires etc. Original clutch was absolutely fine, water pump rebuilt preventatively. Total cost was about $3500 US. Tom is a champ, totally honest and very competent.

    Right after the tuneup, the car feels even more amazing, if that were possible. Both Tom and I noticed it right away, it pulls incredibly smoothly, drives like a normal TR up to about 4000 rpm, then when you stomp on the gas, you hold on and watch out! I have never felt anything accelerate so quickly! And boy does it want to pull! The accelerator pedal seems totally effortless above 4000rpm, almost feather light. The scenery seems to literally melt and blend, and the distant car in front of you comes up VERY QUICKLY. With the MUCH bigger wheels and tires (335/40/17 if I remember, at the back) the car feels incredibly planted and solid. Yet at no point does it seem to wander or follow road grooves.

    The BEAST is currently at the auto detailer getting some well deserved TLC. All interior leather trim including seats coming out for reconditioning, buff and re-dye. Exterior gets at least 2 wet-sand treatments and wax, all little dings/chips filled in. Engine bay gets complete treatment. The car will be cosmetically perfect when Adam is done. Incidentally, Adam used to own a top detail shop in Dallas, and often restored cars and participated in Pebble Beach concours. Should be finished by Saturday.

    After all that, the BEAST goes on a dyno for final tweaking to the Motec fuel management system.

    Can't wait!

    Projects for next year...update the engine system to Norwoods newest work. I am sold on James' great work. Incidentally, Norwood's invoice showed the specific mechanic who worked on the separate systems...James Patterson, current owner of Norwood Performance rebuilt my engine. A total of 4 mechanics were responsible for the total work, including fabricating custom exhaust, electronics, wiring etc.

    p.s. I cannot seem to load pics. If anyone can help, I can email pics of the car before all this work was done.
     
  21. TigerAce

    TigerAce Formula 3

    May 29, 2003
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    So you decided to keep the car after all?? You PMed me to sell the car to a friend, so what happened? You successfully nego'd w/ your better half, I guess.

    Hope you'll be able to post pics! (I really don't know how, too)

    Norwood is only 20 min away from my home, so I can always test drive the car for you! They do great jobs!!
     
  22. vincent355

    vincent355 F1 Veteran
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    Adrian,

    you're my new hero. I still remember when you got your 246 on the old chat. Seemed like only two months ago. :)

    You've got the fever. Congrats on the new car!

    Now post some damn pictures already.
     
  23. audionut

    audionut Formula Junior

    Apr 25, 2003
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    Adrian Low
    Tiger I am sharing the car...my friend and I are going to spank this bad boy together! Vincent, thanks for the kind words, and I remember the old Dino threads, some of the most hilarious, with pics of Dean Martin and Dino of flintstones thrown in! LOL. How is the 355 working out?
     
  24. whart

    whart F1 Veteran
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    So, Adrian, you will now feel the POWER of a big ferrari, in spades! Enjoy the car; sounds like a good one. NOthing like 12 cyl. and an open top in a Ferrari.
     

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