But if it is their car it is within their perogative of how they use it and drive it regardless of anyone else's opinion. Lets say the 288 GTO actually participated in Group B, would your outlook/opinion be different?
Gregg, Yes, it is their prerogative to do whatever, they can drive them off the end of Brighton Pier for all anyone cares, regardless of anyone's opinion. No, we don't have to love it, like it, appreciate it or approve of it. Sorry, thumbs down. No, rather than play hypothetical as everyone seems to like to do, the reality is (despite best intentions) the 288 GTO did not participate in Group B and the car is a ROAD car, not an off-road car, ditto the Enzo, ditto the 40 & 50. BTW, I have no problem with the antics of the 288 GTO, F40 & F50 pirouetting round in the courtyard. It is the rally-crossing of the Enzo across a muddy farm that is, well, Ive said it before and I will say it again - disrespectful behavior by a bored hooligan driving "Daddy's cars". Despite suggestions to the contrary, IMO Daddy doesn't know exactly what is going on here. Yeah, he knows the kids drive the cars. But not like this. I also hold on to the notion that when someone works hard to realize their dream car/s, they treat them with respect. Somehow, I think you would too. And that sentiment is my prerogative.
As i said in the other thread about this video, it hurt me a little to see the Enzo driven on that type of road at those speed. I know how stiff it is and the sound the car makes when you drive over a bump makes me cringe every time..(I must say that i felt the same when i was driving my Alfa back in college..). I did enjoy Manuma's video much more than this one eventhough it was impressive to see an Enzo being driven fast on such narrow roads..
Whilst I also enjoyed the Manuma FXX/Enzo video more, I have no problem with this. The 5 figures this video cost to make according to Joe I also don't care about. A detail will sort out all the mud from where it might have gotten, and a damaged under panel here or there is probably true too. But you're not telling me that these panels have to be replaced this very instant. They will get just as damaged from simply driving it on the road and bottoming out here or there. The person that worries about how many scratches the floor has before buying a second hand car will only look at the cars with very few miles on anyhow, so this car is most likely out as I'm sure it has considerable mileage on it already. When I saw the thread titles off ''Enzo WRC'' and ''Angry driving on farm with an Enzo'' I thought it was going to be spinning about in a muddy field and that's that. It's actually being driven on the farms concrete/tarred roads with some sand/mud on it. Who cares?! Some of you are going on about it like he just punched a baby in the face. It's a car ladies, it's meant to be enjoyed. And for those that believe a car should be concourse spec everywhere, I'm sure some fool has one of them, still wrapped in plastic, for all of you to drool over.
I do not disagree with you at all Joe its just that I understand both sides (not saying you do not). Oh and your right I would not be dirt rallying my Enzo or 288 GTO. Best Regards, Gregg
People are free to do what they want as long as they a) do not break any laws, b) do not hurt another person or foreignt property or c) cause public discomfort. Other people though have the right to call actions they do not approve of, as moronic!!!
Although the video was entertaining I don't agree in abusing a car like that under those kinda road conditions. There are other cars for that. I don't even mind if the guy completly destroyed the clutch doing donuts at a track or driving the crap out of it on a track. But muddy, pot holed roads with thick mud and rocks hitting the paint? Nah... Just my .o2
Personally, I don't think driving an Enzo in an un-natural habitat is anything like as bad as the mutilation that Gemballa et al have done to Enzo's... http://www.lincah.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/2010-Gemballa-MIG-U1-Ferrari-Enzo-Front-Side-Top-View-588x440.jpg
As anyone who knows a rally driver will tell you, they are a special breed of people who have a rather strong compulsion to drive the wheels of anything that they get their hands on. In a week moment a few years ago I let a very capable rally driver and good friend of mine loose in my 911. Long story short; he jumped the darn thing over a crest and damaged the entire 4WD system. Bastard. What I'm trying to say is that if indeed this guy is a professional rally driver his dad will surely know what happens when he's given the keys to this car. Personally I'd never do this to a car of this pedigree, but I think it is fantastic to see an Enzo being driven like this. I have much more admiration for an owner spending money on fixing the car from use rather than letting it stagnate in a garage. And if you ask me, the whole "daddy's boy" argument is unneccessary. The father / son relationship is not some lucky draw - you can bet Old Dad takes great pleasure in the fact that his own flesh and blood shares his passion for cars. Given the choice of your son playing with (and occasionally damaging) your cars or his sister's dolls, I know what I'd prefer.
Joe, I wouldn't do that to my car because I like to keep it looking good enough to possibly win best of show at the occasional Concours d'Elegance, which it still does with almost 7K very fast road and track miles! But I have a feeling that video was very well planned and they had a lot of fun making it, probably with Dad's help. They may have covered the car in plastic and I believe many of those shots were sped up to make it look much faster than it was really going. The dirt road was likely carefully groomed as well. An Enzo going very fast on a rough dirt road would be plowing its nose into the dirt on pretty much every bump, with a HUGE plume of dust behind it. I don't see that happening here. I see it as a very well-done production in contrasts (beauty vs beast) that was intended to get the emotions going without damaging the car.
That's what I see as well. Roads for rally is a totally different thing. No big deal, just wash it. That said, I would not do that with my cars, no matter the size of my wallet.
When I see parents get rough with their kids in public I want to step in and say cool off. But that's their kids. This video I don't like but I'd never tell anyone what to do with something that is so special. As others have mentioned, knowing how brittle these cars feel, man that's a risk. Look, a train wreck, sad and interesting at the same time.
Talk about a lucky sperm club for those kids!!! That said, nice to see the cars being enjoyed... I'll take that over a garage queen dust collector any day.
I've just watched this and I have to say that some are massively over reacting. That was all pretty gentle stuff and completely harmless. All just good fun. If an Enzo can't handle that then it is not a car! Relax no Enzo was harmed in the filming of that video ... nothing that a wash can't fix. Pete
that's what i was thinking - if the Enzo can't handle this then..... i didn't see anything too excessive in there IMO.
This is something I definitely agree with. I'm lucky enough to have my dad own a Ferrari, and he is more than thrilled to share the experience with me. The passion runs through the family and he couldn't be happier about it, so I'm sure it's the same with this Enzo owner. Calling the son out for having a successful father and sharing his love for beautiful and fast cars is not exactly fair.
Exactly! Something I tried to say but in short. If it couldn't do this it wouldn't be worth it's weight in feathers.
I don't think the video was sped up to look faster. I think what you see is what you get Most of it is on concrete road anyway. It's only the "waterhole" that seem to be on gravel/dirt road.
and? so its got damaged under panels? It probably has some chips on the front end too? Doesn't mean you need to repaint the chips or fix the underbody dents. the only perfect ferrari is the car they haven't built yet.
