Rob, i think the refreshed forum will take care of itself. What i thought was of great interest and relevence was that given the recents turmoil which occured, there were a number of posters that dropped in to say their thoughts on the matters, basically that they thought this place was a disgrace, that is why they left a year ago and that is why they were leaving again. I had never seen these posters names before and thats a shame, not that i read each and each post or thread but its a shame that they posted such comments. In a way, I was glad to see their comments as i thought it was critical for the mods to take note of this. I'll be honest, I found myself being targeted slightly by those that i was obviously arguing with but even those that I was trying to do justice for. I got too involved in the debate and as a result of that, the debate carried on and on and on. In the end, the best thing happened, the threads were closed and this workshop was created. I just think that the place will attract new users and encourage non posters to be more involved if the place is structured better and rules are kept to. I dont think non posters should be banned if they dont meet a post quota. Definitely not.