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Do I Buy Extended Watranty?

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  1. F458Spider

    F458Spider Karting

    Apr 12, 2015
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    Hello! I would like to get the opinion of other 458 owners who ordered from the factory. When I purchased the car in 2018 I paid for the extra warranty up to 5 years. Since then I’ve paid the ~$4500/ yr to keep extending the warranty. It passed the pressure test each year. The car only has 4950 miles on it and is in pristine condition. Do I keep paying for this or not worry about it? What’s the probability of a major issue with the engine or transmission relative to this cost? $4500 each year adds up to where I could just self insure. Are there statistics out there to help make a decision? Thank you!

    PS - how do we edit title in posts on mobile? I didn’t notice my typo. Sorry!
     
  2. Gh21631

    Gh21631 F1 Veteran
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    Have you ever used the warranty? If so, to what extent? Personally, I would don't think it's worth it. Just create a 458 warranty account and put your money there.
     
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  3. mike32

    mike32 F1 Veteran

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    They keep trying to sell it to me on a 430, 6 years later and all that money saved and no issues. Remember dealer must be on a cut so they want you to buy it.
     
  4. bball16

    bball16 F1 Rookie
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    I put $4500 away every year in a separate account instead of buying the warranty. At this point I have more then enough set aside for any large repairs.
     
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  5. Mrpseudonym

    Mrpseudonym Formula Junior
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    A reason you might is if you plan on selling the car. A car with warranty is a more attractive proposition for a buyer.

    ..oh and 4950 miles in 5 years? You aren’t driving it enough
     
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  6. PMiranda

    PMiranda Formula Junior

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    I'm kinda in the same boat. I bought the extension when I got my 458 a couple years ago but it's about to expire and I don't think it's really providing any value. If you want to resell soon it's probably worth it since it provide some measure of exclusivity but for me, I have no desire to sell it so I'll probably just let it lapse since the car has been basically trouble free.
     
  7. 05F430F1

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    I sell warranties (properly worded as extended service contracts — warranty, by definition, is free) as a finance manager in a dealership— I agree with having a ‘warranty’ on every car. You don’t need it until you need it, like any insurance…. Typically, it is much cheaper to buy a warranty than to pay for repairs… most warranty prices are only about the cost of one repair like AC or water pump or control module etc… that said, when it comes to Ferrari, the CPO factory extension which covered everything the same as factory new is an excellent value and I bought it for my F8… ($4900 cost to dealer- regulated in Florida and sold for $5995- other states are able to markup to what they want but most cap at $8,400 for a $3500 dealer profit)I believe you can only get this one if the car still has factory warranty remaining and bought from a Ferrari dealer— the POWER15 warranty and others do not cover anywhere near the things that the factory CPO extension covers….

    Since the powerXX warranties etc mostly only cover drivetrain and some electronics as I understand…. For the older, out of factory warranty cars, I would probably self insure.

    As of about 8 or 9 months ago, Ferrari now allows you TWO CPO extensions where they used to only offer it once… so, on a new(er) car, you can get an additional 2 years beyond the end of the factory 3 year and once that is over, you can now do it once more for another two years— bringing the total to 7 years of FULL factory warranty. THIS one is a good deal and smart imo, but for the power 15 and others, I agree with post above to set as much money aside as you can and self-insure for major repairs as this is all those warranties cover anyway.


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  8. PMiranda

    PMiranda Formula Junior

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    If the warranty covered ALL the electronics I'd be much more likely to get it. Not because the individual components are that expensive, but because the labor to diagnose electronic problems and get at them to replace them can be alot.
     
  9. F458Spider

    F458Spider Karting

    Apr 12, 2015
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    Thank you! A friend who owns a 328 had this opinion and I got a laugh out of it at the same time?

    "There’s nothing like the look of a Ferrari, but the repair costs are nuts. I don’t know anything about repair issues/costs on a 458, so I can’t help you much. My guess would be not to do it, based on the fact that you probably drive the car very little, don’t abuse it, and maintain it well. So those things minimize the chances of a catastrophic mechanical failure. And if something goes wrong, that’s not related to an insured event (crash, fire, etc.), what are the chances that the entire engine would need to be replaced (or most of it)? $4K per year, plus the time value of money, will add up fast and pay for a lot of work. Plus with these warranties sometimes you get arguments from the manufacturer over coverage. But in the end, whatever you decide to do, I wouldn’t sweat it. You can afford it, and just look at that car as your child! It costs a lot less than either of my kids, even with the $4K/year warranty!"

    I'm on the fence on this issue. I wish I had some actually statistics. How many 458s that are not tracked have catastrophic issues? The dealer list a few things that can happen and cost a lot, but it's easy to mention the few they see that are bad. He didn't mention the hundreds of cars that had no problem at all. Actuarial stats are what I wish I could get my hands on.
     
  10. PMiranda

    PMiranda Formula Junior

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    "Costs a lot less than my kids"... that's... true :)
     
  11. F458Spider

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    Only reason I could buy the car is because we didn't have kids. ;-)
     
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  12. SD455TA

    SD455TA Formula Junior

    I say NO WARRANTY, save and book that money for any future repair should it ever happen. I got sucked into doing one from my dealer(my first Ferrari) after I told him I would pass on it, he lowered the price to $3,500 for 2 years and I took it. I won't be renewing that.
     
  13. Sargepug

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    This is always a crap shoot and one that worked out literally 10 fold for me! I got a deal on my warranty for like $4k then had to have the trans box replaced w/ a new unit, to the tune of $40k! So $4k bought me $40k in repairs. :)
     
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  14. F458Spider

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    Wow! Well done. My prior year contributions to the pool may have helped pay for it LOL. I can afford it so will do it another year. Bummer is this is first year I have to pay for maintenance also. The car is in perfect condition. The guy who picked it up didn’t have even one blemish to report on the paint. It looks brand new. Only small issue is I’m starting to get a little bit of the stickiness on some of the coatings. I could get a great price on Bring a Trailer.
     
  15. F458Spider

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    UPDATE: The rate for the factory Power insurance is $4900 for my 458 (12 cylinder cars are higher). This is apparently an increase from $4500 last year. There is some sort of 15% discount (forget the reason) and then another 15% for having no claims the previous year. So I'm going to take it for another year.
     
  16. ryalex

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    I think I used the 458 warranty once in 16 months but the F12 one has also brought me like 7x it’s cost in repairs, also the DCT. Plus alternator belt twice, alternator pulley, fuel neck, batteries. They covered the mesh corrosion but I suspect that was more as a defect claim than warranty.
     
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  17. mdrums

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    $5995 for CPO Ferrari warranty on your F8? Nice! Then let me ask what is up with Tampa Ferrari telling me the extended warranty for my 2019 488 is $11,800 plus inspection? These service contract warranties are price regulated here in Florida? I need education and help on this. My 1st extended Ferrari warranty expires October so I need to figure this out. Thanks!

     
  18. 05F430F1

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    #18 05F430F1, Apr 18, 2023
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    Are you saying you bought the first 2 year extension already, it's almost over and are now thinking of buying the 2nd 2 year extension? Or, are you confusing the CPO warranty with just an extended warranty like a POWER15 or whatever it's called (VERY DIFFERENT coverages and prices)... the CPO extension is a FULL extension of the factory coverage for an additional 2 years beyond factory end date... to be purchased WHILE car still has factory remaining AND only if bought from Ferrari dealer...... if you still have factory warranty on your Ferrari, the first 2 year extension is a regulated amount in Florida (one of the only states, if not THE only state that regulates warranty pricing) is $5995 and a dealer cost of $4900....Ferrari now allows 2 MORE years after those two years are over and that one is still a FULL coverage extension but it is more than the first 2 yr extension... I believe it's between 8-10k.... It was just this past year that Ferrari changed their policy and allow for this 2nd 2 yr extension.. It was always only once previously..... so now, we can have up to 7 years of full factory coverage....

    I am a finance director/manager in a car dealership so I know about these things. I bought my car from Wide World Ferrari who also own Ferrari Tampa--- In NY, they can charge whatever they want (within company policy etc) and asked for $8400 for my first CPO... once I told them that I knew the cost was 4900 and is regulated in FL for 5995, they were nice enough to give me a break and sell it to me for 6900 which is still a deal imo so I bought it.... I HAD to buy it from Wide World at the time of purchase and couldn't simply buy from my Ft Lauderdale store for the $5995 but oh well, I'm still happy and feel its a great deal for the extra 2 years.... I'm sure I'll buy the second extension as well..... but as I've mentioned in a few threads, I doubt I'll ever buy the other extended warranties that aren't full coverage factory extensions once the car is older.
     
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  19. MANDALAY

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    $11800 MUST BE 2 YEARS
     
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  20. mdrums

    mdrums F1 Rookie

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    Yes 2 years…..
     
  21. mdrums

    mdrums F1 Rookie

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    Thanks for reply. Yes my extended 2 yrs is up in October. Im either selling my car or keeping it and considering doing 2 more year’s warranty. 2019 488 with 8k miles…yes I drive it but take great care of it. The Tampa service dep has been cool. However they pointed out I’d need to remove the Novitec spring and go back to stock to get the extension on the warranty….so that’s another couple thounsandsand in labor on top of the $11,800 and inspection cost. Not sure it’s worth it.
     
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  22. MANDALAY

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    Sounds right
     
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  23. 05F430F1

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    Ya, looks like that second extension is quite a bit more expensive than the first one (expected I guess)- at that price, it’s definitely a decision- not sure what I’ll do 3 years from now when facing same decision. The $5995 first extension is a no brainer but that second one at 11,800+ isn’t. I might have to gamble/self insure at that number.


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  24. mdrums

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    Yes it's a lot more...plus with my situation I will have to pay to have the Novitec springs removed, my stock springs put back on and car re-aligned. My Ferrari dealership did the Novice's for me and my car is not slammed but I am not excited about stock springs again...nor the thousands in labor to swap out.

    Seems like the 488 overall is a trouble free car. Other than turbo's on them sometimes, but most of those are on 488's with exhaust mods. I looked at Pure Turbo re-build with better internals for the Turbo's and that would be $5000 using my Ferrari Turbo's put a day in labor. Much less money and better stock turbo's than OEM Ferrari.

    Only warranty claim I had was my cars headliner. My dealership Tampa Ferrari fought Ferrari and got this covered. They had a local place redo the headliner using better heat resistant glue. Fantastic job! Ferrari would have sent another OEM headliner and in Florida heat the headliner would be falling down in a few years again.

    I really like the 488 and love my car. I want to keep it. I just can't see paying $150k more for a F8. That's not a good financial move for me. I am not as rich as some here...LOL....so I am not downgrading those that trade up to the F8. It's all what your personal finances allow. ;-)
     
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  25. 05F430F1

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    I’m in same boat financially. I can’t afford these cars at all lol.. I just do it anyway and live paycheck to paycheck literally. F it… so I consider all these things as you do- I’m nowhere near your typical Ferrari owner. I had 3 cars with payments, no investments and rent where I live lol. No worries though. ‘Just make more’ is my motto


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