Do Not Use International Motorsport, SoCal

Website? Phone number? Address?

Good look with getting things resolved.

 

It looks like they recently moved their shop from previous location. I'm not sure where they are now exactly. They do a lot of salvage stuff. What you describe does not surprise me at all. Hope you can somehow get things worked out to your satisfaction.

 

Do you have anything in writing from them what was to be done/supplied?

 

In response Mr. Sessions comments regarding our facility International Motorsport.

International Motorsport neither owned or represented the vehicle J Sessions purhcased. He Purchased that vehicle sight unseen prior to our even receiving it. He purchased a used, damaged vehicle. We installed a left side rocker panel and sublet the paint work. We are a full service facility and Mr Sessions was made aware that the parts had to be ordered and that generally, Ferrari takes between 4-6 weeks if it is special ordered. We also had a waiting list for service work at the time Mr. Sessions car arrived. He knew this as well. Despite all of the prior knowledge, Mr. Sessions sent an open air tranporter to our facility WITHOUT confirming completion. Thus, the paint work (which was sublet) had to be rushed. The vehicle was picked up BEFORE the paint shop could colorsand or buff. Mr. Sessions was aware of all of this and International Motorsport DID NOT recommend transporting the vehicle while still tacky.

As Mr. Sessions purchased this vehicle with damage, the left door sill was missing. Mr Sessions declined to purchase a new door sill. We offered to GIVE Mr Sessions a set of carbon fiber door sills WHEN they were completed. We were not happy with the first offs and have since sent the design to another facility which is now in production.

Because Mr. Sessions is an inexperienced Ferrari owner, and he decided to purchase a Ferrari sight unseen for UNDER $8000.00, thats right Eight Thousand Dollars, not Eighty Thousand Dollars but Eight with three zeros, he has seen fit to blame International Motorsport for all of his dissatisfactions. When International Motorsport was asked if the car was worth $8000.00 that Mr Session had paid for it, yes.

International Motorsport quit returning Mr. Sessions phone calls because he left several rude and antagonistic messages with our secretary.

International Motorsport has many loyal customers that have been with us for nearly 8 years. Our reputation is based wholey on quality and word of mouth. We take seriuosly what we do and WHO we do it for.

Buyer beware if you are purchasing a vehicle sight unseen for 10% of the retail value of the car. You get what you pay for.

Shop owners beware of inexperienced, cheap and pushy customers.

 

It took you exactly a year to find and respond to this thread. Some actions speak louder than words

 

I'm not sure there is enough information to pick a dog in this fight.

If we're talking about a 456 for $8K, what did you expect?

 

They probably just got the parts in, there are always two sides to a coin and somewhere in the middle is the truth.

 

would be helpful if the shop filled out their profile, cant get any information about them

 

This is a cautionary tale to everyone considering buying a car without seeing it.

I'm, pretty sure you can fly from almost anywhere to almost anywhere, within the 48 states on Southwest for less than $200. It's probably worth it to fly to wherever the car is, find a reputable independent tech (via Fchat of course) to meet you and conduct a PPI while you are there.

A seller who won't allow an independent PPI should be struck off your list anyway. An expense of less than $500 for travel and PPI can save you a lot of grief and tension later.

Regarding the $8,000 Ferrari with good mechanicals - I guess it may have a cost a bit more, but it sounds like it was a lot less than the market - quit whining already. It has to be worth your while to fix whatever else ails the car locally!

 

I guess the "reputable independent tech" part was not quite in synch.

Another issue is the conflict of interest inherent in the PPI tech being the repair tech as well.
I always let the PPI techs I use know that I won't use them for any recommended repairs. I require their services only for inspection.

 

Another lesson in my opinion is to have the car repaired on the other side of the country by a shop that you do not have a good, existing relationship with. Not to mention the fact that repairs in SC have to be lower cost than SoCal.

 

I'm still a little confused by this. Was this an $8K 456? What were the other costs? When did you buy the car? When did you take delivery?

How about some photos of this car?

 

I agree. For $8K, I'm sure any 456 is going to have issues -- like maybe it's still on fire, or rolled out of the back of a transport plane, or has coral growing on the carpets.

Then you had it repaired 3000 miles away... this whole thing is bizarre.

 

Very nice car and I am pleased to learn that you are better with the situation.

Make the best of it and enjoy it.

Prime example why everything should be in writing in a deal to preclude misunderstandings.

Have fun with it.

 

I think that's nice......so to clarify your deal with THEM not the seller was the $8K he's talking about?

Man, why to used car guys have to be so obtuse?

 

Jason,

Do you want to provide any info on them-phone,address, etc so we can see who they are?

I could not believe that you would have bought that nice car for $8,000.00!

 

Sorry you got jacked. Too bad you didn't pop into the So. CA section and ask around about these guys. It's mostly unsuspecting customers who use these guys or dealers who want something done cheap, like a clutch with cheesey parts you can't verify. I've heard a ton of stories. People in the know steer clear of them. Live and learn.

 

In reviewing the last posting made it appears that Mr. Sessions is correct, Internatioanl Motorsport did replace the right side rocker. Our apologies for the typo.

1.) It took two years to respond because we were not a memeber of Ferrari Chat until today. And only signed up to make the other side of the story known. A local dealer who uses our facility called and alerted us to the posting.

2.) International Motorsport (IMS for typing sake) did not move locations until recently. So Mr Sessions is incorrect in stating that IMS told him that he didn't receive his free parts 2 years ago because we were moving. He didn't receive his parts because we were not happy with the production take offs. IMS is not obligated to supply Mr Sessions with parts nor do we owe him any. However, once we are satisfied that the parts we are producing are correct and to our standards, we will ship a set to Mr Sessions who is free to use them or toss them.

3.) As IMS spends 100% of thier time working on customer vehicles and attending racing events we aren't able to spend a lot of time monitoring forums such as this one. We just wanted our opinion heard since Mr Sessions took the time to present his. And there are always two sides to any story. IMS for the most part was unaware of Mr Sessions dissatisfaction until reading this posting today. As we have spoken a half a dozen times since the car left our shop. The only concern mentioned by Mr Sessions was "where are my free parts." " Why is it taking so long to get my free parts." " You promised me free carbon fiber door sills." IMS did not do the paint work and Mr Sessions was aware that the clear was just put on the car and that it had not cured. The bodyshop almost didn't release the vehicle until IMS signed a waiver of liability. In retrospect, IMS should have simply refused to accomodate and not allowed the customer to rush the job. Ferrari Factory parts (OEM) were used on the repair. The carbon fiber door sills are produced aftermarket as Mr Sessions well knows. Sue over a set of "free" carbon fiber door sills? He has a lot more time than we do to waste on filing petty law suits. Especially for a vehicle purchased on line from across the other side of the country.

4.) Obviously Mr Sessions, by virtue of the tone and language he has chosen such as LOL and duh, is more interested in starting an argument. IMS is not. We simply wanted our side heard for the record and thats where we stop. And for the record, horseless carriage did pick up the car with an open air transport. Possibly they then transported the car to an enclosed trailer. Transport was not arranged by IMS, so all we can verify is that it was picked up by an open air transport. But we did refer Mr Sessions to them, as the owner worked for FNA for 7 years as a technician before opening his own facility over 7 years ago. He is a factory trained and certified Ferrari technician. FNA has used Horseless Carriage for years.

5.) We have a very good relationship with Carl Troy. IMS and European Road have collaborated for a long time and we are happy say that Mr Sessions chose wisely for his repair facility as I am sure Carl would say about IMS. We speak highly of Carl. And we frequently speak on the phone. IMS welcomes any member of this forum to verify that.

We haven't come on this forum to bash or otherwise badmouth or participate in the rumor mill. We have over 400 clients and that is who we spend our time with. We hope that Mr Sessions enjoys his vehicle for as long as he owns it.

 

It is helpful to read your side of the story, but why are you not identifying yourself?

No name or expanded profile stated! What do you have to hide?

I would think that may lend greater credibility to your position.