Looking at an alfa romeo spider, carproof comes up as normal in Canada and shows salvage from the US... Does the salvage title follow? Car does not look like it has had major damage, undercarriage looks super clean, windows all seems original. What do you guys think? https://reports.carproof.com/main?id=WhjWx7gnLmZojXx/FPc+tpwaW72s06WG#Img_ushist
Not really, on a technicality - you are not allowed to import a salvage title car from the US for registered road use in Canada. Check Registrar of Imported Vehicles If a US car has a salvage title, you would have to declare it's being imported for off-road racing or parts only, and agree that you will not register it for road use.
Dates back to the 90s so I guess they got away with it...car is here in Montreal legally plated and all. I haven't had a chance to look at the registration to see if it says VGA on it.
Google is your friend. Not only does salvage follow to Canada, Rebuilt gets treated the same as salvage. And forget about flood salvage....Unregisterable here. Parts or off road use only.
Mostly false, unless flooded. Registrar of Imported Vehicles - Parts and Salvage Vehicles Salvage can be registered here, but it's a pain in the ass.
Here is the carproof link: reports.carproof.com/main?id=WhjWx7gnLmZojXx/FPc+tpwaW72s06WG#Img_ushist Just add the http if you have to otherwise fchat jumbles up the link for some reason.
Actually it can be imported HOWEVER It has to go to a SPECIFIC Inspection centre that measures the car to prove it's within 2 mm's of factory specs. A guy came to me years ago with a salvage titled viper he had bought but got stuck not knowing what to do next. It's actually pretty simple IF you're confident it's been rebuilt properly. The inspection place I used was on the same street as the accident reporting centre at 400/finch area.
I have no idea where that is....however, my question is: Once the inspection deems it safe and driveable and gives you the green light, does the salvage "title" still apply to the car or is it removed completely?
This. A US salvage or rebuilt car will be branded salvage in Canada. Once it passes the inspection, it will be branded rebuilt in Canada. No way to wash the title.
After investigating the matter further, turns out the title here makes no mention of salvage whatsoever and has been removed from the records. As you can see from the records below, it was declared Salvage in the US and today it does not have the "rebuilt" or "VGA" mention on the registration. I smudged out the owner name and his registration numbers and licence plate but the rest is all there, No salvage! I guess it can be washed out after all... Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
There's just too much at stake with the salvage status in it's history. It WILL come back and bite the potential future owner. I'd walk away from this one. There's plenty of Alfa Spiders that come up for sale on CL, Autotrader, etc...
True. I have a rebuilt title 355 that was inspected at Ferrari of Alberta. I was able to register it because it is within specs as James has explained. There is nothing wrong with rebuilt title cars as long as all the work was done properly. Look at those Ferrari's of old that sell for millions of dollars, even though some of them were badly damaged back in the day. A Ferrari or any other exotic brand with a rebuilt title is a good buy because there is a stigma as to the value now that it has a history. Buy the car if it checks out and enjoy it.
Carproof may well be wrong too! The other possibility, of course, is that it was last registered in a state which doesn't require titles for older cars...I know of a few, they only use bills of sale for transfers and registrations. In that way, you could theoretically wash the title, as there wouldn't really be a title. Either way, I'd walk. I'm considering selling my '74 Spider rolling restoration; if you're interested PM me.
Fab Yes it can be washed.It was a real big scam in Quebec a few years back.I know this because a friend bought a U.S car org from Quebec that had the title washed.They did pick up on it later when it was sold in another province so the dealer had to give the guy his money back. It was great for my friend because the dealer was so pissed that he got the car for a great price.
There were no systems in place to inspect and verify the legitimacy of vehicles back then. A simple matter of looking to see if the chassis stamps matched the papers (or, in most cases, the ENGINE number was considered the vehicle's identity!) and off you go. The mis-matched welds, patch panels and sketchy parts are considered "patina" nowadays And that still can come back and bite you. Look at the ex-Jacques Swaters' 375MM saga... Deals done on handshakes and fading memories cost MILLIONS.
I have personally registered 3 salvaged cars from the US here in Alberta and also 1 "Junked" title (That one was a real pain, but I won my case). Point is, the info above is false.
Again, not exactly correct, you have to go to a certified inspection place, but I watched all four of my inspections and only one was put on a frame machine and measured.
This is true, been there done that. Even though I made a ton of money on these cars I will NEVER bring up a salvage title vehicle again. I got lucky, I sold them to friends. Funny thing is, the BMW that was titled "JUNK" and was almost sent back to the US, was bought by my wifes best friend and she still has it...(10 years and loves it, never did anything but brakes, a battery and tires on it).
Hope they are better than CTC with their worthless DTRL checks. Large percentage of cars around without them. Stupid of the owners as well of course. Makes you wonder what else they missed. And supposedly they are licensed technicians to boot.