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Discussion in 'Tracking & Driver Education' started by 365, Mar 5, 2014.
Someone can recomend a Ferrari track course in the states or Italy
If you have to drive a Ferrari, the factory runs a very pricey course.
Your money would be better spent at Bob Bondurant or Skip Barbour
This is the European Ferrari school.
Driving Courses: all the options that Ferrari offers at its customers.
North American Ferrari school
Ferrari North America - Ferrari Driving Experience
I am serious thinking of taking the advanced Mont Tremblant school later this year.
I've taken the Bondurant, Barber and other schools in the past, but still trying and justify the very high cost of this Ferrari school... it should help driving my Ferrari to its full capabilities.
Oh, brother. Now the Ferrari is so magical it has special educational attributes? If you want to drive a Ferrari at a Ferrari-sponsored school, by all means, but don't kid yourself that you are getting any better driving education than Bondurant, Russell, Barber, Spring Mountain or other courses out there.
If anything, I'd recommend against driving a Ferrari if you are a novice
and I agree, if you're a true novice your educational dollar will be much better spent elsewhere.
For the US school, if you can document prior track experience, they will place the student in the advanced school. If take the course in Europe, even with lots of track experience, they start the student in the basic school. Spoke with a couple of FCA members who took the advanced and Challenge school, and both thought it was extraordinary.
Clearly, insane Ferrari prices for only two days.
I have signed up for the advanced at Tremblant. June 30th
Looking forward to the F12
For the price of a weekend Ferrari school, you can buy an old Miata, track it for a year, which includes price of a few sets of tires, track pads, and rotors. Sure it isn't a Ferrari, but for a novice, driving a Miata around the track will allow you to utilize the entire car's ability without any fear for damage, and get the most out of a lower hp car. Once you do that, you will be faster in a higher hp car.
But like others have said, a few HPDE's and a Skippy School or similar will be better bucks. It all depends what you want out of a school.
And there are those who want to say they did it in a Ferrari, not a 'lesser' car.
yep, "I spent the weekend replacing rotors on the Miata" doesn't have quite the same ring to it as "I spent the weekend "racing" a Ferrari" does down at the ol' country club
I plan to sign up as well.
The Tremblant track, program, instructor feedback, hospitality and the cars are incredible.
My wife is taking the course (again).
As an FYI, the prior 3 days are Ferrari Corse Clienti days....so the F1, FXX/599XX programs are there, as well as our Challenge races
as usual, Peter's analysis of the data is spot on....
Put the Ferraris, the venue and package aside.
The quality of the instruction is head and shoulders above. A combination of the instructor skills, the curriculum and mindset. The instructor crew at FDE would be superb if they were using Smart cars or minivans.
I've been to many of the schools and have a pretty good sense of that. I've observed FDE basic and advanced 3 times - as the spouse! While I'd love to thrash someone else's Ferrari on that track, the school isn't targeted at me (nor, likely for you).
It's a driving program for sure, not a racing program, by design. The emphasis is on a good experience, not maximizing exit speed or minimizing lap times.
My wife is going back again this year. She has fun and WANTS to go - it reinforces good skills and builds her confidence in driving the cars on the street.
The Ferrari element just adds appeal to some, and the 5-Star element makes it nicer for some.
The Radical program at Spring Mountain was also very good, I agree.
I have to admit I have never attended a FDE event, and it sounds like it is probably not for me if lap times are not the final and ultimate objective. I don't really care about 5 star. Give me port a potties and a race any day.
+1, but I'm willing to pay a bit more for workin bathrooms!
I just came back from the Advanced Pilota Corsa in Italy. It was top notch. I have been through multiple DE's through Porsche (PCA) and I had previously completed two of three levels in the Porsche Sport Driving School, so I was able to pass into the Advanced course for Ferrari, skipping the basic course. The level of instruction was incredible, and the approach to teaching was quite a bit different from how PSDS approached. The Pilota Corsa relies more on having the instructors seated next to you while you drive independantly on the course in your pre determined groups. There is much less "lead follow", which is how PSDS primarily conducts its driving education. I would say the amount of track time is about equal in both schools.
I do agree that a novice driver may not benefit as much if you are looking purely to learn how to drive a car fast around a track. You will initially be overwhelmed by how to find the proper driving line, the limits of traction for the car, learning how to apply appropriate braking for corners, etc. All these skills are the same in any car, but factoring that you will be paying a premium to be applying them in a Ferrari. I personally felt the experience wsa incredible... I am particularly proud because I won the "telemetry race" competition at the end of the course and was given a SWEET trophy! (a mounted f1 piston and connecting rod with the course dates on it!)
Congrats for winning the telemetry trophy! Data doesn't lie!
Thanks! I can't lie... it was basically the best moment of my life.
Agreed. I went to the first one in 2005, and Ryan Hunter Reay was one of the instructors. He is a really nice guy. I'm glad to see one of the nice guys win for a change.
It's funny. Maybe because this was the first school, Ferrari did not make us sign damage agreements, which was a good thing because, since this was my first time in a F1, I kept getting the paddles mixed up, right at turn in!
And you can't beat Tremblant, the track or the town or the lake.
My friend from Croatia said that the best driving courses in Europe are in Zagreb. It is not so far from Italy and if you have money, then you can try it.
What?? What does Ferrari charge for a weekend school?
But then again, it is (by all reports) a step change over what you might possibly get anywhere else. I haven’t done it myself.
Think five figures..
A little over $15,000, they go up a few thousand per course for the advanced courses.
Worth every penny.
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