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Dual Mirror Switch

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  1. Theruse

    Theruse Karting

    Jan 17, 2014
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    Here is the fried switch circuit and after it was repaired. My friend is an expert at fixing boards like this, so the credit goes to him. He used trace copper and then soldered. I deoxed the board and lubricated the sliding mechanism. I am not sure if the switch was defective when purchased. I am now reluctant to bench test the switch to the two mirrors as I may fry the switch. If I use my multimeter, it won't help me identify when the polarity of the motor is reversed. Does anyone have a schematic for the dual mirror switch. As later models had the switch on the door, this switch is the joystick type on the center console.

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  2. raemin

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    #2 raemin, May 21, 2025 at 12:26 AM
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    For the wiring diagram, just have a look at my previous post on the subject. (https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/tornado-visiomatic-connection-diagram.606371/#post-146790653)

    You've got positive and negative from the battery. Then when you toggle from right to left or vice versa this activates the motor (one sens of rotation or the other). The when you toggle up/down this activates the motor (same as right/left) AND the solenoïd.

    Proper.testing procedure would be to feed the +/- and check that the motor wires (pin 4,5,6) are energied whenever you toggle in any direction. Then you check that the solenoid wires (pin 1,3) are energized only when you move up/down.

    There is a huge back EMF from the solenoid. I've added a diode and a capacitor in order to tame it on my car as the audio was going crazy. Maybe this voltage spike destroyed the traces.

    As a last resort, scan the PCB and have a prototype made on a CNC router. Should not be overly expensive.
     
  3. samsaprunoff

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    Good day Raemin,

    Do you have a picture of the other side of the board? I ask, as if there is not too much to it, then these boards could be professionally remade easily and inexpensively (< $2 + shipping) should you have issues with the repair in timer. Creating the PCB design would be the most effort, but even so... the circuit looks pretty simple and so an hour or so of PCB design would be all that is needed.

    Cheers,

    Sam
     
  4. Theruse

    Theruse Karting

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    Your link is most helpful, I have two switches and the colors on the six contact points vary, so the number pin is better. On the back of the mirror motor/gear gambol the four posts for the motor and solenoid have a corresponding color stamped into the plastic cover. While the wire colors may be different than what shows on the plastic, your schematic matches the stamped wire color.

    Your comment about the EMF makes sense. What diode and capacitor did you use? Interestingly, I finally had both mirrors working correctly on the bench. Mapped where the wires went and disconnected the battery for the night. When I re-energized the next morning the solenoids were not engaging. When I took apart the swtich, #3 or yellow wire was where the board was fried. So maybe there is some power surge that comes back through from the solenoid. I will install a fuse when I install. I will probably use an old style glass fuse type. What amp fuse should I use? I wont install the fuse under the console but somewhere more accessible under the dash or under the new radio which will have an a DIN opening.
     
  5. raemin

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    I've put a diode between the solenoïd(s) and the switch, and a ceramic capacitor between the switch and the battery. The diode is not beefy (5A?). The capacitor was salvaged from 12v electric mabuchi motors.

    I've got a 2amp fuse on my switch. When I had a single mirror switch, there was an inline fuse next to the switch. Was easy to access from the ashtray.
     

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