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EAG CONVERSIONS

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  1. Ffre92

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    That sounds like a lot of fun!
     
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  2. Qksilver

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    It sure is! I have posted previously, which is paraphrased from more technical descriptions from Trev and @brogenville regarding the conventional wisdom re: 599 MT shifting.

    In short, it’s about the software for MT cars. The intent in terms of the difference between F1 and MT software was to slow down the rate of deceleration in neutral when shifting to compensate for spread between the manual shift time vs F1 shift time. Without that change, the decel would drop revs so quickly that it would be hard to shift smoothly and naturally, and so there were times people drove factory MT 599s and walked away less than emphatic about the experience.

    The upshot is this: Ferrari wrote the code to manage deceleration in neutral correctly on MT ECUs but never executed it properly. Trevor fixed this and nullified the myth that something is inherently wrong with manual 599s. Au contraire… they are magical things. Any factory manual 599 owner should have Trevor fix Ferrari’s mistake and unlock the epic car that it is.

    Per @Ferrari55whoa yes, Wil, Tom, Robin, Trevor, and the rest of the team converted with OEM parts. Wouldn’t consider it any other way. The most upstanding, ethical, and talented team and fabled OEM parts. And it’s an epic thing!
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  3. joakes90

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    I find it interesting Boardwalk is doing these conversions. I always presumed EAG was the closest shop to me with experience doing MT conversions on F cars and the dealers would be a bit more resistant to do that kinda work. They could be a good option if and when the time comes.
     
  4. chris_columbia

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    When will someone figure out how to put a C5 corvette manual trans into the 456 GTA or GTAM?
     
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  5. Ferrari55whoa

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    To be clear — They haven’t done one they said they would do one if someone got a kit?
     
  6. EastMemphis

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  7. Texas Forever

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  8. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    I had a client with an original 599 6 speed. Cannot imagine why anyone would refer to it as a tricky clutch. A human has infinitely greater ability to adapt than any computer does. And its just a clutch, not alien technology, just a plain old clutch.
     
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  9. Qksilver

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  10. Ferrari55whoa

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    Joe, I missed the comment?
     
  11. TheNewEAG

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    You have to start with a quality F1 car from the beginning to see the value post conversion.
     
  12. EastMemphis

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    Do you believe this car wasn't a quality car? It looked pretty nice to me. You would certainly know. Did the seller misrepresent the car? I'm curious. Thanks.
     
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  14. EastMemphis

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    Considering this car looked ok, had a clean title, nice color, reasonable miles, and it worked, if it was an F1, it would have gone for at least $75k, maybe more. Even a grunting pig of an F1 went for $70k many times. EAG bought them for that price. So even if the car was worth only $70k before conversion, afterwards it was worth $87.5k. Draw your own conclusions.

    I'm sure there are cases where the customer breaks even or even makes a few bucks on a conversion. Maybe this case was an outlier, or my assumptions are all wrong.

    I would love to hear of 360's that made a profit for the owners by doing the conversion. That would end the speculation on if it adds any value or not. Thanks.
     
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  15. PAUL500

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    It was not the clutch that was found to be the actual issue with the factory manuals but the rev drops between gears caused by the software controlling such. It was commented on by Dario Franchitti when he drove one and now rectified by 360 Trev on here, for these conversions, whilst it still remains an issue with the factory examples.
     
  16. EastMemphis

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  17. Greer360

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    They did my 360 Spider earlier this year. Art and his team are awesome. They are the real deal. I cannot believe how much more fun my 360 is after letting EAG convert her. They also went through the car top to bottom and gave me a compete rundown on everything. We did some upgrades, and I will always let Art have my car to do anything and everything
     
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  18. henryr

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    shouldnt be hard given its a gm tranny to start
     
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  20. Greer360

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    I had Art and the EAG team do my conversion because I wanted it, not because of a future resale. Nothing is better then revving thought the gears of a gated 6. You cannot put a price on that fun. throw in some Headers, sport cats and Capristo exhaust and she roars like a lion on the hunt. It took time to have them do it right and I never questioned any of it. In my book Art and his team are the best.
     
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  21. mrp_e

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    I've put about 3,500 miles on my 599 since picking it up at EAG in Austin and driving her back to Palm Springs. It took a long time due to R&D, once they started on mine it was done in less than two weeks and that included stuff mine needed like clutch, motor and trans mounts, belts, so on. Could not be happier.
     
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  22. cgt000

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    Can someone shed some light on the cost associated with the conversion? I'm thinking of having a 575 converted to manual.
     
  23. phatteus

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    About $35k, but price could go up depending on the state of your clutch or other things they find while converting.
     
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  24. Greer360

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    $35k is accurate. Mine was more since I had the clutch replaced, all belts and hoses, fuel pumps, tires, plugs, anything rubber or plastic, headers, sport cats, blankets, Capristo Exhaust system, etc. Worth every penny
     
  25. EastMemphis

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    Dang! You have a new car there. Drive it with fury!
     

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