Early 308 rear valance

I am about to do the job.....I have a new valence from Ferrari UK.

Post a pic of what you have.

An ANSA should hang below the valence, I have an ANSA already, fitted properly. I think it's the pipe hangers that set the tip height anyway.

The car I am working on had a "homebuilt" and like your car when it wasn't quite right they fixed it with a hacksaw to the body!

Sigh....I hope they saved a lot of money.

A four tip ANSA #FE2020 should fit like Dr. Barry's pics, below a straight valence. A euro valence had one LH semicircle for a single tip outlet....

 

Maybe lower your hangers and put a new 3 piece valence back in?

I have the part numbers for the valence and trim piece...not cheap!

Once I have the body repaired I am going into production on the stagger slot shield to fit the ANSA spacing. Tips are different, center to center, from original muffler.....

 

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If you go to the "79 308 restoration" thread in the technical section you will see exactly what I went through to fit said Euro QV tail panel with the 2 cutouts rather than the single one found on the glass cars. I bought mine from ferrari UK and it fit but required major modifications to the frame and back half of the car. Thats the only way to properly fit it but im sure it can be MacGyvered any way your heart desires.

 

I can see where a later QV would be tough onto a 1979...

I was speaking of direct replacement of like parts, for 1976 - 1977.

I don't know if he has euro or US rear valence though, Dr. Barry's is straight across, no cutout, IIRC.

 

1976 US version glass car with ANSA 4 tip system........
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If I recall correctly the US spec cars never had cutouts for the tips regardless of age, unless the US glass cars did but the steel ones had the little panel with the slot in it (not taking the diaper into consideration though). Any Euro panel is a pain because of the lack of cats and the trunk position being lower than a US spec car.

 

As Bubba mentioned, that's my ANSA FE 1940 system (ca 1882) which is superceded by the FE 2020.

 

Hi Bubba
It almost appears if the muffler in post #4 is triangulr. If so then it is from a 308GT4, not a GTS/GTB. Tips angle differently and are closer to the end of car.

Gerrit

 

the USA 76-77's have the mailslot with no cutouts. it is all one piece and would be hard ($$$) to fix if its been butchered.

sorry to post these pics of my GTB again, but i though it might help.
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notice the old exhaust i took off . ( original thermo reactor)
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What exhaust did you put on?

 

Homebuilt..

My valence is three pieces like Dr. Barry's..only the center piece is steel.

 

When I got my first car it came with an Ansa 1940, and the right side stuck out about an inch farther than the left, and I had no valance panel. The second car came with no muffler, but it had the valance. After I swapped the rear header, I put the Ansa on it and now it was straight, both tips equadistant from the bumper. But I could not put the valance on as the muffler sits to high. Then I swapped the front header over, so now it has the same headers and muffler from the first car and dang if the muffler isnt crooked again. Its like the front header is an inch to long. Or at least its longer than the original header was. Either way I cant fit the valance panel. Its over an inch to high, not enough room to loosen anything that far. I'll try to deal with it this winter.

 

I was talking to reaper...

 

I was answering for carreaper, see "removing thermoreactor muffler" thread...he stated in there that he was having a system locally fabricated....

I did not mean to imply he actually built it at home.....sorry for the confusion...

BigTex is sponsored by ANSA........ANSA...........ANSA! ROTFLMAO!

 

i had a local shop fabricate a system from the manifolds back using a Magnaflow muffler. the carb 308 sounds glorious with this thing, and the whole thing, parts and labor was $500.00 ( friends of friends price). i was even able to put the old metal "diaper" back on !

back on topic, would there be any way to remove a whole section from a scrap 308 from one of the usual sources for the thread starters car to use? seems you could remove the damaged section and pop rivet the new section in and then blend the rivets / seam.

 

The original thread starter hasn't returned but you can clearly see Dr. Barry's is three pieces. You just replace the "mail slot" center section..

That's a good description for it carreaper, but you GOTTA quit calling the muffler shroud screen a "diaper" LOL!

Brings back bad memories!

Interesting that the Euros were so different...trunk depth, etc.

 

Hey Bubba! Lookin' good there, all rossa subscribed and all!

Yes, "mail slot" is a great decription, Michael The center part of the rear valance with the mail slot is steel (part #60212107). And don't forget the black trim for the slot (part #60246907). I'm sure Daniel at http://www.ricambiamerica.com/ can get those parts. Laterally, the rear valance is fiberglass and part of the rear clip.

My ANSA Sport system is ca. 1982, FE 1940 which has been replaced by FE 2020 as Bubba mentioned.

Barry
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It was a birthday gift from someone here, dunno who.......

I need to get my quote from the recent New York Times Art Car article as a sig..LOL!

No telling how long it's for...enjoy it while it lasts!

I was wondering if your center part was steel. Gonna hang some ANSAs soon they'd better fit, after all the trouble! The post about the tips working out uneven was puzzling, but I have a sawzall and a welder!

 

Nice present, Bubba.

Yes, the center section is steel. !976 fiberglass cars did not have the slotted shroud.

My ANSA Sport had to be modified a bit originally to lower the dual tips on both sides about 2.5 cm to clear the valance. I'm not sure if the FE 2020 will require the same. The thermal reactor muffler was designed to have the tips clear the valance.

Barry

 

We have these handy electrical conduit benders, see......

Very interesting, I guess I'll have to unwrap my new one and get to work...my old ANSA hangs below the valance properly, I'll check if it was modified, or what.....

 

Michael,

Nice exhaust system! Consider keeping the slotted shroud off and show it off!

I'd also recommend installing some heat reflective material to protect the fiberglass shell just above the muffler body. I used the same material found in the F40 engine bays. Later cars came with heat shields.

Barry

 

Curious to know what model # it was. The FE 1940 was a Euro system and the only thing around in those days. It did clear the Euro rear valance with the single cut out.