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Early Daytona Fuel Tank Color

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  1. dgunn365

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    Has there been a thread on this topic?
    Ours are black but we see the 'oatmeal'(?) color on many later cars.
    Any comments/observations will be appreciated; thanks.
     
  2. Edward 96GTS

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    always oatmeal
     
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    Well, there's ^ one of those pesky little words one should probably try to avoid in reference to vintage Ferrari production components, methods & techniques, especially when there might be contradictory evidence out there.
     
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    post up the evidence or it didnt happen.
     
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    ???
    I wasn't making any claims, but you on the other hand... :rolleyes:
     
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    so you entire response was just to say *maybe* some other colors exist?:rolleyes:
    if you have repainted daytona fuel tanks in the past, did you use oatmeal as the color?
     
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    With all due respect Ed, but you're evading the obvious.
    You made the claim "always", so please "post up evidence or it didnt happen".
     
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    timo, love you like a brother but *youre evading* the question “what color did you use for the tanks?”
     
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    While this is really fun to watch I do need help with a decision.
    I do plan to go thru the legendary Daitona photo pages to see if I can find a black set............all 300(?) of them.
    If I do I will gladly provide that information here.
     
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    With one exception, same that were already on them.

    Now, what reasonable evidence can you share to support your claim “always” ?

    David, as I’ve mentioned before, my personal experiences or research regarding most of the construction details or features on early/plexi-nose production examples is still rather dismal.
    I have encountered/seen different color variations on mid & late production cars, along with couple of oddities, but can’t vouch for all being OEM.
    Are your tanks coated with urethane insulation and painted or just painted ?
     
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    what is the sn?
     
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    i didnt see in your post what color/s you used. why not?
     
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    Maybe its layed glass .
    I dont know the exact method
     
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    I tend to go with Timo here; start stripping off the layers of "restorations" that folks have done over the years until you find what looks to be original. Of course, parts might have been replaced, and it is hard to know when to stop, but I think that it is relatively unusual for older restorations on a Daytona to have ever stripped finishes all the way back to the base material, so the original stuff will either be the last, or second to the last.

    To Dave specifically, that "oatmeal" color is from an underbody-sealer/protector coating. If you don't find anything like that on your tanks, they it would seem unlikely that they were ever oatmeal (unless the tanks were replaced). Also, if the interior of your trunk is not "black bombed", or if the black goes all over the tanks (i.e., was done with the tanks out of the car), that would give more evidence that black is original. But alas, that sealer/coater was not always easy to get, so if the tanks were replaced, then it may have just been "skipped"... :)

    On a less "purest" note, if you want to avoid any arguments with judges, the oatmeal is the safer bet, but to do it right, you will have to source the sealer/coater. Claim is that it is a Wurth product (generally claimed to be hard to source in the USA).
     
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    My old Daytona had the oatmeal. SN 140XX . It hadn't been touched since about 1985. Mostly original (old and decrepit) parts.
     
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    Hi Timo, they have the covering I think you are refering to; an 'insulation'.
    I plan to take a look today to see if the material underneath the black (paint?) is oatmeal color.
     
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    Thanks Alex; we should know more later today.
     
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    Thanks for the photo Howard. I believe ours are a "more black" color.
    I will do just a touch of scrapping today.
     
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    I’ll be happy to answer as soon as you’ve provided reasonable proof for “always”.
     
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    trying to pick pepper out of fly sheet can be frustrating.
     
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    Just in case you think it should be oatmeal. This was the last new old stock Daytona tank Ferrari had in stock for a RHD 73 car. I would guess that was in 2008
    We used a Wurth product which was almost a perfect match to this for the other tank which we had refurbished.
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    Not really, but then again, I've learned to avoid making absolute blanket claims/statements, especially if I wasn't overseeing the entire sheet production.
     
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    Yeah, that looks like one of the finishes I've encountered, although it does also seem similar to a (non-US) LHD Berlinetta left tank .
     

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