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Early Dino (L, M) dashboard SN Tag

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  1. HMB-Dino

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    #1 HMB-Dino, Aug 24, 2011
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    I'm told by someone who has restored early Euro Dino's that there's supposed to be a metal SN tag riveted to the top of the dashboard to the left of the instrument cluster. This is as opposed to US models which have the SN stamped onto a flat area of the steering column cover.

    Can someone post a picture of this item?

    I also need to know what this tag/plate is called in order to search for a source. My M-Series Euro Dino has an unstamped US version steering column cover, but I've acquired a used Euro version to have installed and I'd like to make things more complete with the addition of this SN tag.
     
  2. swift53

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    My "L" dashboard, largely and 100% original has no tag nor any telltale signs of one having been there.
    I'd love to see a photo of one.

    Regards, Alberto
     
  3. GermanDino

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    that`s not the case....
     
  4. Nuvolari

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    I have never seen this and if Matthias says it is not the case then you can be pretty sure that what you have been told is totally wrong.
     
  5. tx246

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    I was remianing quiet because I have never seen this that is the same from car to car.

    I believe what you are reffering to is the tag that was/has been installed when importing a car into the US that was not originally delivered here.

    Most Euro spec cars imported and taken through the dot process had similar style tags, and most were placed on the windshield. The purpose was for VIN's to be visable for inspection. This is the only thing I can think of
     
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    Quote from Production Highlights, Dino register:

    "1. European versions, or home market cars, were left hand drive cars identified by the front signal lamps which laid flat and blended with the front contour of the coachwork. Clear white lenses were normally fitted. Small round amber signal lamps were also found on the sides of the front fenders. Chassis number was visible from outside the car on a small stamped metal plate fixed inside the windscreen on the pillar near the drivers vent window. Most times, over the years, these plates have been removed or lost. Some later European cars had chassis number stamped on the steering column like the USA versions described below."
     
  7. HMB-Dino

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    #7 HMB-Dino, Aug 25, 2011
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    The Euro Dino I saw this on was fairly close to mine in SN (build date Dec 1970 vs my Mar 1971...both M-Series). I was told that the tag was for VIN identification by looking thru the windshield since Euro Dino's do not have the VIN stamped on the steering column cover (no flat surface on their steering column cover for it). I can't speak to how/when this other Euro Dino came into the US, but I do know that for my Dino, the original owner was from Milan and owned it until 1983 when it was sold to someone in the country of New York. My Dino dash is the original (has never been refinished), but shows no signs of ever having such a ID tag attached to it. By the way, the ID tag in question, as I recall, is about a little over 1"x 4" attached with the long side parallel to the side of the car.

    "Chassis number was visible from outside the car on a small stamped metal plate fixed inside the windscreen on the pillar near the drivers vent window. Most times, over the years, these plates have been removed or lost."

    I remember seeing that excerpt somewhere. So the diff here is that the Dino I've seen with the tag had it attached to the dashboard vs the pillar (which on my Dino has been resurfaced).
     
  8. Nuvolari

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    I remember that the Alfa Romeos had a small metal tag on the inside of the window pillar. It was body colored and could be read by looking through the outside of the front glass. That said, given the number of really original cars that Matthias has had the pleasure of seeing, I'm not just ready to believe the Dino register.
     
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    It is possible that the tags were required only when the cars were imported to the US. That seems to be what tx246 is saying. That may also be why Matthias has not seen them. Just a thought/possibility.
     
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    My "L" dashboard, largely and 100% original has no tag nor any telltale signs of one having been there too.
     
  11. tx246

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    The tag I saw recently in a picture I can't find is a metal tape piece attached directly to the windshield. The s/n was stamped into it. I don't believe it was factory, but it was very old and recently removed.
     
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    +1
     
  13. dgt

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    I've heard of this tag only once but I've never seen one and was skeptical if they existed. I suspect the person who told me may have read it from the dinoregister.
    Mine is a US import L-series and I've searched for evidence of such a tag, none found either on the windshield or dashboard, old rivets, glue etc. I can't see a tag in old photos of the car either.
    Perhaps the earlier cars which were "imported for racing use only" didn't have these but by the time the M-series production was in full swing it was required by DOT?
    open minded...
    Andrew
     

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