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Early History on 3223

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  1. davidgoerndt

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  2. nunzio828

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    hi guys
    im new to this
    i am the current owner of 3223
    i purchased it in november
    the early photos on 3223 are great do you have any more
    i am trying to amass all info on this car
    thank you
     
  3. SefacHotRodder

    SefacHotRodder F1 World Champ

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    Welcome to the board. Glad to have the owner of such a rare automobile here
     
  4. nunzio828

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    actually guys i dont think it is 3223 as the first two gtos did not have the rear spoiler
    perhaps the second gto may have later been converted to an integrated spoiler but even to this day 3223 has a bolt on spoiler
    please help
     
  5. rob lay

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    Welcome to FerrariChat.com. Let me know if I can help in any way. You can select my name and then private message to contact me.
     
  6. senna21

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    Today it's used to allow air to flow out of the wheel-well to reduce the high pressure generated (lift inside the well) by the spinning wheel and tire. You'll see this used on some aftermarket/special wish Porsche 930 in the 80s. You'll also see it used on the front wheel-wells on the F40, and Enzo.

    At that time though (1962) you could be correct that they had done it help air flow over the rear brakes not knowing what other benefits it had. I believe all 62 GTOs had them. I've never seen a pic of one without them!

    The 1984 Road and Track issue profiling the 288GTO had a 62 on track with it for visual comparison. That car had them as well.
     
  7. Napolis

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    I remember the car when it was with Bob Grossman. I believe you're right about the spoiler but it was a long time ago. Bob was offering it for about 15K, less than a new Ghibli.
     
  8. BigTex

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    Is that our first 250GTO owner????

    We have to update the model list............LOL!
     
  9. El Wayne

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    Mr B, welcome aboard and thanks for your input.
     
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  11. kare

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    3387/GT. 3223/GT never did Le Mans and received a wider rear spoiler when one was added.

    Best wishes, Kare
     
  12. nunzio828

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    thank you guys.
    the historical photos are great and so hard to come by
    i appreciate all of them very much.
    the car is of course pictured in many books but only at its "maiden "show car release.
    after which there are very few photos to be had from its racing days and various owners.
    so anything that can be contributed is again greatly appreciated.
     
  13. gtofreak

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  14. xs10shl

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    Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I just bought a couple of 250 GTOs myself. Please send me all your photos. LOL!
     
  15. Napolis

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    nunzio 828 did just buy GTO 3223.
     
  16. xs10shl

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    Ha - well, there you have it - the joke is on me! To me, It just looked too fake a post to be real! ;^)
     
  17. rob lay

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    Nothing surprises me anymore after finding out some of the users we have here. Pretty funny actually for a bunch of bench racers and amateurs to critique Shuey's driving style only for him to view the thread personally. :)
     
  18. zjpj

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    great to have you on the board, nunzio. what a car.
    have you considered repainting, adding the old racing stripe - this was, after all, the car that started it all. It would be nice to give a nod to the significance of that press conference birth - the way the world first saw the car that would become one of the most significant automotive models ever
    Best,
    Zach
     
  19. nunzio828

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    actually yes
    decision will be made to possibly do just that during 2006
    as it would be a true restoration and concurrently make it one of a kind
     
  20. Gatorrari

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    I think I found it. Is his username JonnyT?
     
  21. SefacHotRodder

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    Jim, not sure, i can't really remember


    Nunzio, again, welcome. Are there any pictures or "factiods" that you have found of your car that we may find interesting?

    All the best,


    Chris
     
  22. P4Replica

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    .... And if it's who I think he is, he also owns a rather nice Norwood P4 replica, too. ;)
     
  23. SefacHotRodder

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    So that pic was taken at the Daytona 4h?
     
  24. nunzio828

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    well as you can attest / imagine, being a new owner of any ferrari no matter what the model we endeavor to collect every scrap of data about our acquisition.
    that is precisly where i am today.
    so to specifically answer your question at this moment i only have the boiler plate data that is readily available to all.
    hopefully this website and other areas of research will provide some additional tidbits.
    thank you
     
  25. SefacHotRodder

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    Thank you. It must be a great feeling to know that such a significant car is in your garage
     

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