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EBay reserve not met

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by coachi, Apr 6, 2008.

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  1. coachi

    coachi Formula 3

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    I see such great high bids for Ferrari cars on EBay and often, the reserve is not met. It occurs to me that the seller sets a very high reserve to avoid paying a commission on the actual sale price, then contacts the bidders and makes a deal outside of EBay. Of course, I may be wrong. I will gladly stand corrected.
     
  2. greyboxer

    greyboxer F1 World Champ

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    Don't forget also that it is very cheap effective advertising for both the car and the business - the listing fee is low and the quantity of likely viewers is higher than almost any other advertising medium - especially if the ad then gets discussed on a forum like this
     
  3. 62 250 GTO

    62 250 GTO F1 Veteran

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    It happens, I've done it several times.
     
  4. wetpet

    wetpet F1 World Champ
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    interesting. i always think the high bid is under market for decent cars.
     
  5. ammoman

    ammoman Formula 3

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  6. LarryS

    LarryS Formula Junior

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    Auto auctions on eBay do not have commission charges.
    There is a listing fee (usually $40)and there is a flat completed auction fee (usually $50) if the car sells.
    I do agree, many (most) people use eBay for cheap advertising.
    And, I never believe a very high bid for an item that has not met reserve,
    I assume it's the sellers friends bidding to right below reserve....
    Larry
     
  7. dm_n_stuff

    dm_n_stuff Four Time F1 World Champ
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    You don't pay additional commission when you sell a car on ebay. It's a flat fee.

    I do think many of the better cars are listed on ebay simply to advertise them, not to sell them through ebay.

    Maybe to avoid paypal fees on deposits, but other than that, there's no additional cost associated with actually selling the car through ebay.
     
  8. havoc

    havoc Rookie

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    What if you buy on ebay, then you inspect and have ppi and now don't want it?
     
  9. 2NA

    2NA F1 World Champ
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    Welcome Aboard!

    Looks like you made a fair deal on the 430.

    Looks like the ammo business is better than I expected. I've been a customer and was thinking about making a purchase again soon (I've got a new toy to feed).
     
  10. ammoman

    ammoman Formula 3

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    Great to hear from you and thanks for the business.
    We sell 1.5 million rounds per week and a high of 2 million.
    I think the 430 is going to be a keeper and not too sure how often the Lambo will see the light of day.
    Gonna test the new LP560 in late May but love the look and feel of the 430.
    Thanks again.
    Eric
     
  11. mousecatcher

    mousecatcher Formula 3

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    like buying anything else on ebay, your bid is supposedly a contract. the best case is you just get some negative feedback. the worse case is you get sued.
     
  12. JohnnyS

    JohnnyS F1 World Champ
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    If you just don't want it, then you are on the hook.

    If the item was misrepresented, then there is no contract and ebay supports this. However, you will need to show that the item was misrepresented significantly, not just a little bit.
     
  13. Jedi

    Jedi Moderator
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    Having personally bought a couple vehicles on Ebay, it was not so rigid in my cases.
    Both times, I called the seller, and we agreed that I would ONLY have to pay if I
    still wanted it after the test drive. No harm no foul. Most sellers respect that if
    you have to buy a very expensive (i.e., purchased on short notice) airline ticket,
    hotel room, meals, and rental car just to come look, you MUST be serious enough
    to buy if everything works out.

    But some sellers... yeah, a lawsuit could be in the offing

    Jedi
     
  14. M.James

    M.James F1 Rookie

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    Then you're screwed - you buy a crappy car and piss your money away, or you welch on the deal and have your aution credibility trashed...or worse. Some big-ticket sellers consider online auction bids to be a form of contract. Walk-out on a contract, and you might need legal representation. I haven't heard of it happening, but the fine print is posted for a reason....

    For me, if someone is going to offer a car for-bid, and they're not being realistic regarding the car's value, then I see that as a sign of a mis-informed seller and I steer clear.
     
  15. 348 Turbo

    348 Turbo Formula 3

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    This hasn't been my personal experience on eBay. I've never actually "won" a car auction there, but I have been the high bidder several times, been contacted by the seller, and arrived at a satisfactory price; done the PPI, and NOT bought the car due to my own DD. Never been a problem. I'd guess others have had the same experience. I've been told by many auction "winners" of similair situations. I've never heard of anyones Auction credability" being trashed, due to a bad PPI, (but the sellers could be).
    There seems to be somewhat of an "eBay-Phobia". Many folks spreading rumors about cars for sale on eBay, even referring to them as "ebay cars". They're just used cars for sale. Do your own DD, as you would for any other purchase.
     

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