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Ecclestone, Di Montezemelo and Todt hold meeting to improve F1

Discussion in 'F1' started by Bas, Apr 3, 2014.

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  1. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    If they mandated carburators Ferrari would be unbeatable but it takes more than tradition to build a successful power plant.
     
  2. JJ

    JJ F1 World Champ

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    It was definitely an entertaining race, though even with the safety car most of the battles were teammates racing each other.
     
  3. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    There are many imposed parameters in an F1 engine under the new rules; different components, lots of electronics, engine mapping, throttle by wire, etc...
    Ferrari hasn't mastered all of them yet.

    The engine freeze doesn't help to develop it either.
     
  4. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    True.
     
  5. 4zaJim

    4zaJim Formula Junior

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    Fair enough, I missed the punctuation but was perhaps thrown off by your use of the King's English LOL

    I just don't agree with your perspective on why di Montezemolo is complaining, nor for the convenient absence of Ecclestone in that complaint . . . (see post above)

    BTW, I've been emailing back and forth with a lot of my friends in England (I actually have quite a few F1 friends in the UK), and there is a definite divide between the manner the formula has been received in their ranks than amongst all of my incredibly disgruntled F1 friends here in the states.
     
  6. GTE

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    There are three enginemanufacturers. Renault arguable did a worse job than Ferrari.
     
  7. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    They were wrong in 1776 too.
    ;)
     
  8. itschris

    itschris Formula 3

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    If that's true and according to everyone it seems, that Alonso is the highest skilled driver, you think it's the chassis that is so bad that it can't really compete with the RB's?
     
  9. RWatters

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    The car can't put down what little power it has so it's slow out of corners and even slower down the straights. That forces them to overdrive a car that's also lacking in aero which is why it's just as bad in the corners.

    The car is a dud.
     
  10. GTE

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    The RB is good enough the mask the poor performance of the Renault. That car has great traction.
     
  11. itschris

    itschris Formula 3

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    Not even sure what you're talking about at this point.
     
  12. parkerfe

    parkerfe F1 World Champ

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    This new formula makes for great racing and frequent passing. The race in Bahrain was one of the best in my ~45 years of watching F1.
     
  13. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    Me either, I was in the Prost stand at the Aussie GP and I thought the Ferraris were one of the best coming onto the main straight where others were getting out of shape, in particular Vettel, who seemed all at sea with the new car.

    From what I saw at Albert Park I expect the Ferraris to be very good at Monaco
     
  14. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    You old bugger :)
     
  15. Sellnit

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    Great, one race.....
     
  16. Tifosi15

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    #341 Tifosi15, Apr 8, 2014
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    I can't help but think there would be much less complaining if the regulations had the hybrid drivetrain stuff, unaltered to what we have now even, and an open engine formula. That way we would have splitting sound, cool turbo noises, and whatever you like. I guess that's where the WEC definitely wins that battle.

    Maybe a rehash of the boosted multiplier to the max N/A engine size?

    I don't follow WEC as closely as I do F1 but what are the thoughts on cost there? Everyone knows Audi has a space shuttle budget and Toyota and Peugeot have gone up against them anyway. Usually costs are avoided to attract teams/manufacturers, it certainly doesn't look like Le Mans is having difficulty finding teams and budgets??
     

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