Ecstasy, my Niece and the hospital

PETE

SORRY TO HEAR OF THIS...PRAYERS TO HER RECOVERY

YOU MIGHT WANT TO GET HOLD OF OUT FCHAT DRS HERE (SFUMATO, URO,DOM, FOR SOME ANSWERS

REGARDS MY FRIEND,
BRUCE

 

Sorry to hear this, I hope she will be ok.

 

Pete our thoughts are with your family. I don't know anything about the permanent effects of the drug. I hope she recovers fully....

 

Receiving a large quantity of exctasy does not cause lasting damage but it has been known to cause short term memory loss. Occasional use of exctasy will have lasting effects, much more harmful than cigarettes or alcohol for instance. I know many who have tried and/or use it personally including some ex-girlfriends. What your niece needs is rest and to recoop. She will be alright. Be thankful she didn't end up like Natalie Holloway.

Sunny

 

Peter
sorry to hear of this


First thing of any substance I found

http://www.salon.com./health/feature/1999/07/07/ecstasy/index.html

godspeed

 

extasy is not as harmful in the long run

dunno about a large dose but even a small dose can be harmful if conditions are not right
if you heat up too much, it may cause brain damage, even just one hit

im not doc, but one of my friends was slipped a hit by his now ex-girlfriend, I went to the hospital the following day w/ him just to make sure everything was okay and that is what the doctor told us

 

MDMA, or ecstacy, increases heart rate and blood pressure significantly.

Abuse can cause damage to the heart and brain. (Long term abuse, unless already suffering from a condition that a sharp increase in BP or hear trate can aggravate, not normally one time use.)

It can reduce the flow of seratonin in the brain. Seratonin imbalance has been linked to depression, anxiety, panic disorder,and impulse control.

But, most research shows that the effects are reversible with time.

This from my sister the drug and alcohol counselor.

I'll see what more I can get when she has more than a minute.

DM

 

Your very lucky she ended up at a hospital instead of one of her friends trying to help her through it at some house. Ecstasy makes you very thirsty appartly, some people have died from drinking too much water after they've ingested the drug. Hope everything turns out fine.

 

Journal of Neurology, Neurosurgery and Psychiatry 2000;68:719-725

Peter - this is surely a difficult time for one and all - bless her heart.

I cannot emphasize enough, if at all possible, keep her in the hospital for an extra day beyond Doctor's recommendation.

 

Sorry to hear of that. She should pull through. Your sister will need to keep an eye on her and the people she hangs around. Get well soon.

 

Sorry to hear that Peter.

I've treated several ecstacy o/ds. No idea how much they took but all recovered after anywhere from 1-4 days. Treatment was monitoring (ICU is good) and supportive care only - IVs, etc. No lasting negative effects in any of these people. Will say a prayer that your neice has the same good outcome. BTW, agree with Wax re: don't take her home too soon. Treat the patient not the freakin insurance co.

Best,
Tom

 

Ditto that but when she's out DO get her some counsoloring. This NEEDS to be discussed with someone who has experiece.

 

^^^Double Ditto that.

 

Sorry to hear about this Peter.

Thought and prayers are with you and your entire family.

 

All the best Peter.......hope everything turns out well in the end.

 

Single hit overdose/dose should not be long lasting, but get Neurologist involved NOW. Also, needs rape kit if they have not done so, pregnancy test too. Sorry for blunt, but it is an issue. STD kit as well if it was good ER it was done already.
Make sure they look at liver enzymes too, as the cutting agents in the street drug have their own toxicities.
PM me, I'm in middle of ICU ugliness today but I will try to help
Where is she? City/hospital, how old...<18 is pediatric.
Jim, thanks for PM of this thread, I have been off board.

May god be with her and family.


Just read more of thread...
Get her to a real big city hospital with a toxicologist. Eureka/Santacruz is nowhere's ville.
BIG City BIG gun docs. 3 days tied to bed?? WTF?
GTF outta there.

 

Agree with The Butcher.

Hard to say after it goes on for a while. Rarely other conditions could present after a high dose, like hypoxia (lack of oxygen to the brain) can present with confusion.

Absolutely impossible to say with out seeing her and her labs, X-rays etc.

Prayers are with you, as a father of a pack of kids, I hate to hear this stuff!

 

Thoughts and prayers with the young lady and her family! Scary stuff.

 

Exctasy has killed and there's good advice in this thread.

 

I would follow that advice.. it might not be a bad idea to check for evidence of sexual activity.. with that kind of breakdown, she might have passed out and.. well, you get the idea. Just check it out.

Thoughts and prayers..

 

So maybe it's not Ecstacy. could be LSD, GHB (http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/publications/factsht/gamma/) or who knows what. Six hour delay in the drunk tank sux bigtime! She should have had medical screening on booking (SOP), been evaluated by the jail doc and sent to ER - doesn't need a judge's order for transfer to the ER. It's a doc order unless CA is different from the rest of the world (another thread at another time).

I would assume they did toxicology screens at the hospital so what she took should be forthcoming.

Jeez, she could have tripped and fallen down, whacked her head hard and turned up with all these symptoms. Did they do a head CT?

I did 15 years ER and 5 years of Corrections Medicine (jail doc) and this kind of stuff pisses me off. Delay, delay. Save a buck. Not trying to be a pot-stirrer here, but...

Keep up the running updates, Peter.

 

There is some extremely good advice that has come your way, through these posts. It's great, actually, that there is a place like this you can come for facts as well as prayers. ~

 

Thats the big point right there. If it goes on for days could be a sub dural hematoma, stroke, hypoxia or other things that need a DX right away. Can't just blame it on intoxication unless the organic probs have been ruled out.