Eddie Griffin Enzo Repaired

Do you believe there are really 446 Enzo's out there and that number is growing or is that BS?

 

Anybody here have pics of that black enzo,just after accident to view damages.thx

 

Nice m3 pic

I never liked the slr

 

I can't believe it was left 'unattended overnight' at Irwindale, which resulted with a rock through the windshield..........

 

Didn't the Enzo and SLR both belong to Daniel Sadek?

 

race car...possible lemans project lol...

 

What happened???

 

Agreed

 

Everyone here commenting negatively on the "well used" nature of the Griffin Enzo is a tad out of touch. Repairs on an expensive car are essentially meaningless years from now. The really high buck Ferraris, the ones fetching $5 million, $10 million etc etc are all cars with history and repairs - many repairs and sometimes entire body changes. The fascination of people with low mileage, untouched, undriven cars is quite pathetic.
There is honestly nothing that unique about how Ferrari manufactures cars and a competent repair facility will match the workmanship and quality of a new car with ease. In many cases they will give you a finished product that is much better than the original, especially with regard to paintwork. I just don't like Enzos and wouldn't buy one anyway, but if the Griffin Enzo is well repaired it will be no different to a factory Enzo for the next owner.

 

This same fascination with purchasing a low mileage untouched vehicle similarly excuses one's purchase of an exorbitantly priced sports car to begin with; the racing heritage, the conservation of the brand. A vehicle with no repair history allows a car to reflect the true manufacturing intentions of the car builder. As you know, in comparison to most standard car manufacturers who outsource a large portion of production to various auto suppliers, production is done in-house (with exception) by Ferrari. This is quite unique. Situations where a car has to be repaired by a competent repairer unassociated with Ferrari undermine Ferrari's holistic approach to production and therefore weaken the unique appeal of the brand to a perspective buyer.

 

Here's the difference and it's a big one. When Ferrari repairs an Enzo they basically replace EVERYTHING but the VIN plate. They even issue a one year total vehicle warranty. For all intents and purposes you get a new car. They will also change the color of the car if you wish and fit the size seats and material you want. An FCHATTER recently bought one that this was done to and I think he was wise to do so.

This repair is fully disclosed and if some one's fine with it cool. I just think the repair Ferrari does is worth a lot more.

Conserving the patina and history of a significant historically important car is a lot different than repairing a modern production sports car.

 

Totally agree

I just find this theory about the weakening appeal to be way overboard. Too much passion.

Jim,

Dont know if i am reading this right but if a vehicle was written off, extremely bad so it warranted a complete replacement then fair enough. In this case the Enzo was damaged but nowhere near others that....well....split in two and burned etc therefore surely it makes sense to have it repaired accurately by someone capable of doing so and even save $$$$$$'s?

This car didnt need replacing or are you saying it did?

In that case, surely the owner is then paying far in excess?

I'm not getting big man

Regards,

Matthew

 

Basically all I know about this particular car is if the stories I've heard are true it was used hard and put away wet. I saw the crash on u tube. IMHO it's likely that that hit may have caused damage that only someone very familiar with how Enzo's are engineered could evaluate. Did the crash damage to the radiator cause the engine temp to rise too high for a few milliseconds? Only an SD II can tell. An Enzo engine is 200K and can be damaged VERY quickly by overheating. Maybe these guys are experts. I don't know but I do know that these are very complicated mechanical systems and once again even for more money I'd rather have one repaired by Ferrari or an Authorised Ferrari repair service and I think down the line others would too. (Maybe these guys are Authorised I don't know if they are this isn't an issue)

Cheers

 

Thanks Jim,

I obviously am nowhere near as knowledgable as yourself when it comes to these things but i just find it amazing that someone would have a car replaced completely in some cases. I suppose when money is no issue then why not. I do understand that there are massive technicalities and these have to be checked and made good.

Matthew

 

That's not surprising considering you agree whole heartedly with 410SA. Explain to me then why the majority of folks find a low mileage, no accident history car more appealing and are therefore more willing to pay for it than one that has been involved in a number of accidents and possesses high mileage? I certainly believe a reasonable person is willing to expend more on a no accident history car as such a car reflects the intentions of the designer/manufacturer. Much the same as why a damaged piece of art does not fetch anything near an umblemished piece.

 

Dont take this wrong, I admire the passion behind it all but i find it incredible what level it is taken to, maybe I'm not reading this right.

Of course a low mileage/no accident car is more sought after and holds a little more value but I think in the case of such rare cars and ones that will diminish in number, it is just expected to some extent to have some work carried out on it at some pont in its life. Front bumpers are painted for stone chips however this can be magnified out of proportion. I dont know what the mileage of this car is but again thats another point, some would say thats a good thing.

What i thought was being said and I took your opinion to be was that Ferrari are the only ones that should be 'repairing' Ferraris. if not the car is de-valued and this detracts from the prestige of the marque as a whole. If that is the case then that is a sad case. I think there are competent companies out there to carry out this work also.

regards,

Matthew

 

Does anyone know what exactly the replacement parts are made from?

 

China.


J/K

 

... Mmmmmh

take any given 45 year old GTO .

how many times has it been raced , repaired and restored

and still is a multi million dollar car

 

Nope.

The difference in value between a "no Stories" GTO and one with "stories" is millions of dollars.

 

After all these years do any true 'no stories' GTO exist?

 

Yes. Several.

 

Have you ever had one Jim, or do you fancy one for the future?

 

Never owned one. They are very special but personally I like the mid engined 60ies cars more.

Somehow I've also wound up concentrating in one of one's.

Cheers!

 

Judging by your collection its not a bad way to do things