I know S well and hope to visit himself and P again (hopefully) soon. I've had a couple of good wine-fuelled evening with those two! I haven't asked him specifically about the Ellena parts I need yet. He gave me the bonnet from the Ellena he broke up.
I think requiring the removal of a period correct hood scoop is as stupid as requiring removal of a period correct radio antenna and/or mirrors would be... but this is exactly the problem with Classiche certification: history is often erased in the process. I would understand the request if the hood scoop was clearly of a later type but in this case it isn't. With so many scrapped cars it might be possible to find a replacement hood though. That would enable eating a cake and keeping it. Best wishes, Kare
Luckily I have access to a spare bonnet so I will probably have it restored without the scoop and have the best of both worlds. I'm not sure where the erasing history idea should stop though. One could argue that any work carried out on a car is erasing history? I'm sure lots of history has already been erased on my car before I got it, its been re-painted at least twice, fully restored once, had three different engines (although soon the original will go back in), bumper-over-riders have been fitted and then removed and so on. Some of the changes were probably in-period some out-of-period, who knows? And when does 'in period' end? I suppose every car that goes into a workshop for work of any kind is having an element of its history removed in some way. Tricky subject. David
Hi David, have you found out the original ignition setup of your 128C? I did not see a "replace distributors" in your to-do list. john
Hi John, The nice thing is that I have two 128C engines! In the car just now is the 'new' engine that DK Engineering built around a new Classiche-supplied block in 2008, as at the time the original engine was still missing. The DK/Classiche motor has only done a couple of thousand miles since its full build in 2008 and runs like a dream. I found and bought the original engine this year and it will be rebuilt before it will replace the DK/Classiche motor currently in the car. Unfortunately the original engine came without ancillaries like carbs, manifolds, starter motor, distributers etc. but obviously all those are on the DK/Classiche engine that I drive around with just now. The plan is to rebuild the original engine and to replace the missing external ancillaries from the DK/Classiche motor. I will then sell the DK/Classiche engine less ancillaries (effectively a 'short' motor), so I do have all the bits I need to get the car running with the original engine. Best, David
It's good that you have the parts. A number of 128C motors came with the 12-point distributor. Here's 0807GT. john Image Unavailable, Please Login
Yes, some of the Ellena cars seem to have been fitted with single distributors and others twin distributers. Both my motors have twin distributors. David
Hello all, I need to source a pair of correct Marchal 660 Fantastic lights that sit in the front grill on the Ellena. Does anyone know whether originally the lights were driving/spot lights or fog lights or one of each? Sorry, copyright unknown for pic of 0807GT. Best, David Image Unavailable, Please Login
Yes, and I would be interested in a spare lense for these lights, if anyone knows a supplier. Thanks in advance. john
Apparently this colour was available from Pinin Farina 250 GT Coupes, can anyone post a picture of a car in this colour? (BTW Verde Bottiglia is Italian for bottle green) 16.364 Verde Bottiglia (Max Meyer) Best, David
Norm Peterson in the SF Bay Area who had a 250 GTE in what I beleive was this color. It was metallic. Anyway, I beleive it was the original pain - or maybe an older redo. See if you can run him down. Nice color by the way - for green.
0949 GT was Verde Dora MM 16348 over Verde Bottiglia MM 16364. 1893 GT (a Pinin Farina Cabriolet) was Verde Bottiglia MM 13634. Paul
Hi Shawn, I got it from the Pinin Farina 250 GT Max Mayer swatch on the Tom Yang site Paint Colors I believe that swatch applies to the Boano/Ellena cars too. We have stripped a small panel on my car and under two different reds we have found a patch of green above the original primer and I am told that Verde Bottiglia was the only green available at the time. David
The color I have been told for 0755 was "Verde Scuro", a dark green. It wasn't a very common Ellena color for sure, but it did exist. It is on the cover of a vintage italian magazine, most likely the exact car, but it has been printed in a drawing format. I also have color pictures of 0755 one the stand at the Chicago Auto Show and it is clearly dark green.
David Not sure if this will be of any use, It shows Scuro. I think it may have been posted first by Marcel:- Also, check out this from the 330 site http://www.330gt.com/encyclopedia/paintcolors.htm it shows bottle green. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Interesting, do you know the paint code and manufacturer for the Verde Scuro? I am having a sample of Verde Bottiglia produced to see if it matches the patch of paint on my car. I could also have Verde Scuro mixed too to see which is the closest match.
Here is the green colour we found under the paint layers. Anyone recognise it? Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Moderators, could this thread be merged with my Ellena Dilemma thread below please as they both concern the same topic? I should have continued the same thread rather than start a new one. https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/vintage-thru-365-gtc4-sponsored-vintage-driving-machines/324308-ellena-dilemma-3.html David
