Engine Cntrl Sys Failure

Without much info..I would say a weak battery in startup

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I bought a Launch X431 in order to probe the ECU and determine if the CEL is just a blip or if it requires dealer service. If it's the former, I simply erase the CEL fault code from the ECU.

 

If not a "blip" as mentioned above, Plan B: Replace ion module. Perform software update and clear faults.

 

I had that in my FF a couple weeks ago and there was a clamp that came off and a hose got disconnected, Could be some kind of airflow related issue but strange with the low mileage and how new it is.

 

IMO the number of these I have seen I would say battery.

OK guys its so very simple. You pay 300 k or more for a car. The OEM battery is crap and has discharged on its way to your dealer.

For the sakes of a few 100 bucks get a new battery installed by the dealer before you pick up the car.

Now ALWAYS leave it on the tender.

And by a starter. YOU WILL need it one day.

These cars drain the battery even if everything is off.

 

BTW if Ferrari say it was a battery glitch and they have recharged it , IMO ignore that and ask for a new battery.

Flattening batteries damages cells which will not recover.

This happened to me and thank God i had already bought a starter just in case. At all places at the servo getting petrol. Not to mention all laughing at you when your car wont start.

 

Better yet just pay $900 for an antigravity battery and never worry about it again. It honestly amazes me that people don’t buy them more often and that Ferrari doesn’t offer their own as an option for 3-4x the price.

 

Maybe trade in the F8 for a McLaren 720s? An engine fault message at 200 miles is not what you want when paying the kind of money you pay for an F8. I think the reason Ferrari did so well in the LaMans historically is because the race only lasted 24 hours. A Ferrari will run fine for the first 24 hours, but after that, you're pretty much on your own.

OK, enough bashing on Ferrari. In terms of practical advice, if the issue is not the battery, I'd have the dealer check the coils before they go changing the ION controller. I had a check engine light on Ferrari, and they changed the controller, only to find out later that the controller was not the issue. Checking/changing the coils (and it's probably only one coil that is the problem rather than all of them), is cheaper than changing the controller. Hope that helps.

 

Checking the coils is the first step Ferrari will do when this message pops up.

Another question for OP is: Did they say that a cylinder was misfiring under load, yet?

 

....after ruling out the battery.

 

i always have the auto shut ff off ,one time did not even know it was on i accelerated and it shut down came back on with warning lights

 

Agreed. Best 900 spent to date

 

Do folks fell that the F8s have a quality issue? I have been seeing things pop up here and their. More and more worried about the longevity of the turbos.

 

what issiues have you seen or read so far besides turbos

 

I'm on this sub-forum daily and I have only seen a couple turbo related issues. Am I missing something?

 

Link for battery?

 

https://www.normalguysupercar.com/product-category/ferrari/458/electrical/

 

The same thing has been happening to me. I took delivery of 2022 F8 Spider and got the error message at 115 miles. The car was at the dealership and the error code was low voltage. The dealer charged the battery and cleared the code, but the error message came up again at 163 miles. The car was on the battery tender at home for 10 straight days. Drove the car to work and on my way back the code came up. Really frustrated at this point.

 

Please read what I wrote above.

BTW if Ferrari say it was a battery glitch and they have recharged it , IMO ignore that and ask for a new battery.

That's the point, Ferrari dealers take the easy way first trying to convince you that they have charged the battery. Its a load of CRAP. Insist on a new battery.

These batteries barely last a few days off the tender. What happens in the weeks and weeks of the car being transported ? On a tender ? NO.

IMO pretty much all have a stuffed cell or 2 in the battery and it will die. Having a starter will save you the embarrassment when your car wont start. This will save you 1 - 3 times . After that the battery is knackered.

Tender wont do anything on a damage cell. Insist on a new battery ( Mark the one you have in the car so you can see they have changed it ) or buy a new one and get them to install it.

And always have it on the tender

Change the battery and stop being frustrated and enjoy your new machine. Its just the battery.

Heaven knows what's going to happen to the Hybrid Ferrari's

 

Thanks!

The website has it under the 458 section. I checked their F8 parts selection and it wasn’t there. I assume it’s a direct fit? Anything else to buy besides the battery?

 

I can't confirm the fitment - I would reach out to Antigravity directly. You'll need a new CTEK lithium charger and an adapter.

 

I appreciate the info!

 

I have had this message a couple of times. Once on our 2011 California when it was about 3 years old and it was a battery issue. The other time was on my 2015 458 Spider when the car was about 6 years old and had close to 11,000 miles on the odometer. This time it wasn’t a battery issue…it was due to failure of one of the secondary air valves. My understanding is these secondary air valves open for the first 20-30 seconds of startup and are tied to the emission system. If one fails (sticks open or is slow to close) then the message you received will be displayed.