Engine Photos

Hi,

Does anyone have a photo of a 365gt4 2+2 or 400i engine taken out of the car?

I need a clear picture of rear mounting face (i.e. the part which bolts to the transmission) to see if I can attach to an F355 manual transxale for a project car.

If you have one caould you please email it to arnie[at]the-webbs[dot]com

Many thanks

 

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W/O bell housing.
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Thanks blkprlz.

What I am trying to see is behind the flywheel.

The F355 gearbox has no bellhousing - the clutch and flywheel are located at the other end of the gearbox. Where the 1st nmotion shaft exits the front of the gearbox, there is a 4" dia hole whihc locates on the back of the block. In essence the rear crank seal has gear oil on one side and engine oilo on the other.

The issue I have is finding a way to contain the oil in the gearbox, hence I need to mount a flange to fit into the 4" hole around the outside of the crankshaft flywheel mounting face.

If the back of the block is (or can be machined) flat then a solution is easy as I can just make up an adapter and bolt it to the back face of the engine with a gasket to keep the oil in. Then I just need to get a splined adapter to fit bolt on the back of the crank and make up another more conventional spacer to allow the engine and box to be bolted together.

The 3555 box is similar to the one here http://www.bussadori.com/Bussadori.com/Ferrari_Blog/Entries/2008/3/7_Checking_the_bearings..._files/shapeimage_2.jpg in terms of small shaft in big hole.

 

Comparing all the photo's to gather a sense of relative size, I can see that there is a way to seal up the drive input on the 355 gearbox. However the bigger problem appears to be the shifter input shaft. Keeping that away from the engine oil sump without the use of an extraordinarily long spacer assembly.

 

Have a look at the following site - http://www.freewebs.com/400engine/

These are photos of my 400 engine rebuild. You may find the answers you need in these. Have a look around slide 64 for some close-ups of the back of the engine without the flywheel.

The first picture posted above is of my engine during this rebuild.

Simon

 

Thanks Simon, I do think the point raised re: the gearbox remote linkage will be the primary issue.

 

Arnie

Are you planning on shoehorning a V12 into K2RUM?

Aidan

 

No Aidan, K2RUM met its death recently due to a large pothole, a treestump and two concrete posts. £35k's worth of damage, so it has become an unrecorded write off. Plan to rebuild it with my son when he's old enough and after the current project for which the V12 was destined. When complete it should look like Mark Collins' ill fated car below (only better ;-)).

I've plumbed for a F355 V8 as I just can't see the way to get a V12 in the car whichout much chopping about of the chassis.
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You could mount a 400 engine onto a 308 gearbox as this was a mod that was done in the early 80s by a few people........

 

308 box is transverse IIRC?

 

Arnie

Sorry to hear about K2RUM. My 1982 1600 X-flow Seven has just been restored by Redline and Arch. They did a beautiful job. You probably don't remember this, but in 1996 you helped me out with a nut and bolt and loctite after the front wheel fell off in the night at Arnage. We got the car to the club area the next day where you sorted me out. Thanks again!

Aidan

 

Here are some shots from my '78 400 GT 5 speed. Hope these help.
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Hi Aidan, Actually I do because the use of Superglue mean't it was one of those more innovative fixes! 2004 was the last year I did the onslaught to Le Mans. The Club topok the trip over, but failed to take my advice and consequently it was down to about 20 cars this year from nearly 200 the last year I did it.

Moving to the engine, I think the post by Dodici Cilindri was the Achilies heal in my plan, so I went with a F355 motor. On garden leave at the moment, so a few days stripping, servicing and reassembling mean the P4 recreation now has this for its power train:

Many thanks for all teh 365/400 pics, it was a nice idea......
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