Engine Ticking after oil change

Probably it is a sticky lifter, what brand of oil? What viscosity was in it before? It is somewhat normal if the car is parked for week or longer but not after an hour.
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Search under "360 Modena engine ticking" There is a member here with that same type of issue.Im not saying his concern is the same as yours,but from what I read it could be a big problem.Brian.s,and Dave Helms talk about 360 lifter problems that can result into big problems.I dont want to alarm you but I read this just recently.Double check your oil level,then have a tech listen to the sound.It may be nothing.Good luck ,keep us informed as to what you find.

 

Oil filter problem perhaps? Letting all the oil drain out and has to fill upon every restart, leading to low oil pressure on startup and the ticking? Just a guess if it was not there before.

 

Sounds like a noisy hydraulic lifter.

 

+1 More than likely one of the lifters is bleeding down and takes a little running time for it to pump back up to zero lash.

 

Just curious, did you use the same engine oil again or did you change brands or viscosity?

 

"and 2 new crush rings for the drain plugs"

And therein lies the rub.....

 

Sorry this seems a meaningless comment how can crush rings have any bearing on hydraulic lifter noise.

 

They don't. I was only trying to add a little humor to the conversation....

 

Brand shouldn't make a difference but viscosity does. A little lifter noise on start-up is no big deal since it goes away shortly.

 

Did you get any maint. records with the 360??? There is a possibility that the oil was not changed regularly and the detergent in the fresh oil cleaned out some sludge in the lifter that was helping hold a seal.

I have seen this before on some metric v-twin motorcycles. In fact a co-worker just bought a used Honda VT1100 and his lifter got noisy when he changed the oil. The bad part is the lifters are no longer available from Honda.

 

just wondering, when did ferrari switch from overhead cams (no lifters) to hydraulic lifters?
I have a mondi and noticed this happened when I switched fron reg 5w50 to synth and quicky changed back , the ticking went away for me. jmo

 

From Wikipedia:

There are a number of potential problems with hydraulic lifters. Frequently, the valvetrain will rattle loudly on startup due to oil draining from the lifters when the vehicle is parked. This is not considered significant provided the noise disappears within a couple of minutes, typically it usually only lasts a second or two. A rattle that does not go away can indicate a blocked oil feed or that one or more of the lifters has collapsed due to wear and is no longer opening its valve fully. The affected lifter should be replaced in the latter situation.

SO:

Either put in thicker oil or replace the lifter,

 

It seems odd that it only happened after the oil change.

I would change the engine oil and filter again. Try and use the same engine oil used before you got the car. If you have the service histroy, it shouldn't be hard to see what oil was used in the past.

If you still have the noise after the oil change, then obviously there is an issue. I remember only recently reading here that Dave Helms (im sure it was him) saying they are only starting to see issues with noisey 360 lifters now. Something like that, he may be able to confirm if he sees this thread.

Try another oil change first mate, it's the cheapest and easiest route to take for now.

 

While this is only anecdotal, one of my vehicles (not Ferrari) that has the oil filled lifters occasionally makes the tapping sound for about a second when it is first started after sitting overnight. This has been going on for a number of years. The vehicle frequently sees track use. I have also noticed that as the oil gets older and used more, the tapping occurs less. At first I was concerned but have long since quit worrying about it because if something were really wrong, the engine would have expired by now. As long as the tapping goes away very quickly, I say let it tap.

 

As the oil sheers down the viscosity thins, and finds it's way into that balky lifter at a faster rate. Totally believable.

It's odd that fresh oil would cause it for the OP, unless the weights were changed.

I'd switch to Royal Purple....

 

Yep yep.

 

Based on our research and findings after disassembly and prep of some 300+ lifters, dirt that goes in, stays in. They are a one way garbage can at the end of the oil system.

Some of the debris we have identified inside the lifters could not have found its way there under normal operating conditions, it had to have been there since manufacture. Aluminum flakes, silicone worms, fiberglass header insulation, wood chips (?!)..... the list is long.

To date we have identified no less than 5 failure modes, a number of which cant be heard but cause problems none the less. Still think you know more about what oil is best for the hydraulic lifter cars than the engineers at Ferrari....? Think again and choose wisely as it affects things many had not even considered.

It took me months of research and testing to figure out a way to put a 3 angle valve job on a 1.7 mm overall diameter valve seat. That little exercise required a number of jigs to be built, cutters made and involves various compounds up to 3000 grit diamond lapping compound to blueprint the final valve seat lap in. Tedious work done under a microscope until a method was developed where we could get consistent results that would pass my QC tests. Results that, by design, will last and to the best of the lifter design, will prove self cleaning.

Everything works well until it breaks. How does one know when its broken if it cant be heard? THAT is the real question that I am going to try to answer once the engine dyno is in place this fall now that I have a solution to the lifter problem. Knowing what I now know, I would still do the procedure we developed even if new lifters were available. There is a lot to this little story and I have just touched on one or two points.
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Do you have any updates. I also have this problem