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Enzo autographed Ferrari brochure question

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  1. HPmaxer

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    #1 HPmaxer, Jan 7, 2015
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    Hi guys,
    I bought this 1984 Ferrari brochure signed by Enzo as a gift for a Ferrari car and memorabilia collector. I am not a collector or a Ferrari guy myself, so I was hoping some of the experts here might be able to give me an opinion as to authenticity.

    I have attached the two pictures that show the signature. The Ebay description just said that it was signed with a purple pen (but I assume most fakes would also use purple ink) and purchased at Freck’s Auto Art (I have no idea if this is true). The first and, to a lesser extent, the last “r” make me a little nervous. Also, the “e” looks like the pen may have been lifted before the pen stroke was continued.

    I know the signature is faded, but I like the brochure with Enzo’s picture so I bought it anyway. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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  2. furmano

    furmano Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Perhaps it's an authentic signature and not a print, as is the case with most Enzo signatures on printed material from Ferrari.

    I would think a signed signature would have a depression where the pen pressed the paper but from the photos it doesn't look like that's the case. If there is a depression then it likely is a signed signature and not a printed one.

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  3. HPmaxer

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    Thanks F. I will check for a depression when it arrives on Saturday. I know that they pre-printed the signatures on a lot of the factory letters. I did not think that was the case here because of the signature's location inside of a brochure and because the ink is so faded relative to the rest of the print.

    My main concern was whether Enzo was actually the person who signed it. Since starting this thread I have found many more signatures from his last few years and I am starting to feel better about this one. If genuine this would have been signed some time between 1984 and 1988. I have found signatures from that time that appear closer to this one than the earlier signatures I had previously been comparing.
     
  4. nopassn

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    I thought I had read somewhere that he used a felt/soft tipped purple pen to sign (most times, anyway) - if that's the case, there may not be an impression left by the pen. Looks fairly legit to me, fwiw - the fading of the signature is substantially pronounced when compared to the rest of the page... seems like they would be faded about the same, were they printed together.
     
  5. HPmaxer

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    That is pretty much exactly what I was thinking/hoping; I just did not really trust my own opinion when it comes to this subject. I will take a better look at it when it arrives tomorrow. Thanks for the feedback nopassn, I really appreciate.
     
  6. furmano

    furmano Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Good point. I guess it's really hard to say (for a layman like me :p). But yeah, the Enzo signature on most official material from Ferrari SpA is a printed one.

    Maybe someone might know in what cases Enzo actually signed stuff. Was it typically with gifts given to key people? Did he typically only sign certain types of items like books (for example Piloti che Gente)? Did he ever sign a series of things like a set of cards given out at Christmas? Was Enzo known to sign often or seldom? Did he ever sign official brochures? I don't know the answers to those questions.

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  7. spirot

    spirot F1 World Champ

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    You have an authentic Enzo Ferrari Signature. starting in 1982 when the Reparto Corse moved to Foriano and was no longer in the actual Maranello Factory, Enzo's day to day office moved across the street - he still had the old one at the road car factory but used it less and less, and stopped going there at all by 1985.

    Each year or two the brochure you are showing "La Ferrari" was updated with last years F-1 cars and pictures of the road cars. I have one very similar to yours from 1983, that is his signature. I sent him a congratulations on winning the World Constructors Championship in F1 - specifically asking for his autograph, and got a signed brocher back as well as a card from Sig. Franco thanking me in english - on typing paper.

    from the 40's to late 60's it was very common for Enzo to sign all manner of letters, and requests. from about 1970 to 1980 he started having pre printed thank you cards with the purple ink - these usually had the sponsor logos on the bottom ( goodyear, Agip, etc... ) and his signature slightly off center. they were on thick stock paper.

    he rarely signed a book unless it had a personal dedication to someone he knew or it was specifically requested and the book sent for autograph. There are a number that have come up for Auction - I have a copy of Piloti sigend by Enzo dedicated to Pietro Faccinetti of Rome circa 1981.
     
  8. HPmaxer

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    Once again, I would like to thank everyone who has provided their very valuable input. Spirot, your detailed response has given me the confidence to present this gift without reservation.
     
  9. furmano

    furmano Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Nice job Tom!

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