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Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by Manuma, Nov 2, 2005.

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  1. Manettino

    Manettino Rookie

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    Not quite - the deceased's family would have been suing everybody and everything - they sue the city/state for bad roads or improper signage. They'd sue Ferrari for not having adequate warning stickers on the car. They'd sue the tire manufacturer for making unsafe tires. If it were possible, they'd sue God because the sun temporarily blinded the driver making it impossible for the driver to see the road.

    Too many idiots in America no longer take responsibility for their own actions, and there are just as many lawyers out there to file such frivilous suits for those idiots.
     
  2. gbrown37

    gbrown37 Formula 3

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    its the only yellow/tan Enzo ive ever come across...are there more overseas?
     
  3. gblogger

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    Statement: "A gun in the home is 43 times more likely to kill someone you know than be used against an intruder."

    Truth: This is a misrepresentation of a meaningless comparison from a limited and poorly done study. This study was performed over a 6 year period in one single county in the USA. As this study is was done in just one county, that makes its results useless for saying what happens anywhere else. Scientists and researchers call this "a sample size of one". The comparison is meaningless because it is an apples vs oranges comparison. 37 of the 43 are suicides, 4.6 are classified as criminal homicides, and 1.3 were classified as accidents.[5]

    Kellermann and Reay, the authors of the study have stated themselves that "cases in which burglars or intruders are wounded or frightened away by the use or display of a firearm [and] cases in which would-be intruders may have purposely avoided a house known to be armed.."[5] should be included as a benefit. BUT, when they calculated their comparison they did NOT include those cases. They therefore undercounted protection uses by at least 500 times.[6] If the purpose is to compare defensive uses verses misuse, all defensive uses should be counted, not just the 0.2% of time when a defensive use results in the death of an attacker. You measure defensive uses by lives saved, not criminals killed, after all, the purpose of self defense is to prevent or stop a criminal attack, not kill the attacker.

    Homicides that were found to be self-defense in a court of law were counted as criminal homicides by this study, thus over stating the number of criminal homicides, and under stating the number of self-defense homicides.

    "Someone you know" is often described as friends or even "loved ones", but in reality this includes rival gang members, drug dealers, abusive spouses and acquaintances, and so on. Those who proclaim the 43-1 statistics will often imply that only dear friends, loved family members, and small innocent children are the ones being killed, an obviously misleading statement.

    The study failed to distinguish between households or environs populated by people with violent, criminal, or substance-abuse histories -- where the risk of death is very high -- versus households inhabited by more civil folk (for example, people who avoid high-risk activities like drug dealing, gang banging and wife beating) -- where the risk is very low indeed. In actuality, negligent adults allow fatal but avoidable accidents; and homicides are perpetrated mostly by people with histories of violence or abuse, people who are identifiably and certifiably at ~high risk~ for misadventure.

    The Hart Poll in 1981 found 644,000 defensive uses with handguns per year. The Mauser Poll in 1990 found 691,000 defensive uses per year. The Field Poll in California in 1978 found 1.2 million handgun defensive uses per year. The Time/CNN Poll in 1989 found over 908,000 defensive uses per year. Gary Kleck estimated the yearly defensive use of firearms by civilians to be at about 1,000,000 per year. A more recent study by Gary Kleck put the yearly total at approximately 2,400,000 defensive uses. Yet the total deaths by firearm in the USA only runs about 25,000 to 30,000 per year, and that includes accidents, murders, suicides and self defense homicides. That means a gun is 30-40 times more likely to defend against an assault or other crime than kill anybody. As accidental firearm's related deaths is about 1400 per year, including hunting accidents, the defensive use verses accidental death ratio is about 700-800 to 1. A study by Simon Fraser University professor Gary Mauser shows Canadians use guns in self-defense against assailants more than 32,000 times a year. \ Statement: "80% of deaths by guns in Canada are with legally owned firearms." (Coalition for Gun Control)
     
  4. TexasMike

    TexasMike F1 World Champ

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    Sounds like this should be in P&R now.
     
  5. gbrown37

    gbrown37 Formula 3

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    truskies
     
  6. TexasMike

    TexasMike F1 World Champ

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    truskies???
     
  7. Saleen

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    #382 Saleen, Nov 12, 2005
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    I found this picture on WreckedExotics.com and was too dumb to realize that a dozen other people might have seen it and already posted it. But what the hell, I went ahead and posted it because I am also clueless about the search function. This has happened many times before and it will undoubtedly happen again.


    the above post may have been altered by a moderator who is sick of idiots reposting this freakin Enzo pic

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  8. andrewg

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    Repost (in very bad taste)
     
  9. Iwish

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    For f**ks sake Saleen, check the other postings first you nob ! repost and in bad taste !
     
  10. Saleen

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    HAHAAHAHAHAHAHA, just wanted to get someone's attention, and noob? get a grip. Just proving a point that there are people who have no life.
     
  11. CMY

    CMY F1 World Champ

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    I'm amazed that you picked the right forum but couldn't take a second to scan any other threads where these pics are posted. Where do you think wreckedexotics.com got the pictures in the first place?
     
  12. CMY

    CMY F1 World Champ

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    Good point, you obviously don't!
     
  13. Iwish

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    <removed by Rob - user PM'd>
     
  14. AJS328

    AJS328 F1 Veteran
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    You might want to consider the fact that anyone that can afford an Enzo isn't going to give a **** what anyone else thinks. You can spout off all day about who should and who shouldn't be able to drive a certain car but in the end it doesn't mean a thing.
     
  15. CMY

    CMY F1 World Champ

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    Mods.. it might be time to sticky the original thread for a month or two to possibly avoid this in the future..
     
  16. gbrown37

    gbrown37 Formula 3

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    so, F1 or stick?
     
  17. FastLapp

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    LOL!!!
     
  18. AJS328

    AJS328 F1 Veteran
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    LOL! On a serious note though, what sportscar should I buy if I have $1.5 Million to spend?
     
  19. Webby

    Webby F1 Veteran

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    Seriously, I was wondering about that, can they really just resize it and then say "copyright wrecked exotics"? It's not like they took the picture...

    F50!
     
  20. Greg G

    Greg G F1 Rookie

    Not sure, but I think you can buy every 328 in existence, so you can stop doing it one at a time. :D
     
  21. Z0RR0

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    OMG!!! Have you heard about the wooden F50 boat?
     
  22. gbrown37

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    1.3 on the Enzo, $200,000 to have "Warning: you are not Michael Shumacher" sign custom-stitched on the glove comparentment!
     
  23. darth550

    darth550 Six Time F1 World Champ
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    ....Such beautiful articulation....Why the edit?? :)
     
  24. Malfoy

    Malfoy Formula 3

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    If you can afford 1.5 million to spend on an Enzo, how did you earn your money? Can I make lots of money like you?
     

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