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Enzo destroys its competition ..0-100-0 Test

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/SP3' started by amenasce, Apr 27, 2004.

  1. amenasce

    amenasce Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Hot Hatches

    Alfa Romeo 147 GTA:
    0-30mph: 2.45mph
    0-60mph: 5.69secs
    0-100mph: 14.10secs
    Reaction time: 0.27secs
    100-0mph: 4.39secs
    Overall: 18.76secs

    Ranault Megane Sport 225:
    0-30mph: 2.45mph
    0-60mph: 6.03secs
    0-100mph: 15.45secs
    Reaction time: 0.29secs
    100-0mph: 4.45secs
    Overall: 20.19secs

    Honda Civic Type R:
    0-30mph: 2.51mph
    0-60mph: 6.76secs
    0-100mph: 16.02secs
    Reaction time: 0.27secs
    100-0mph: 4.64secs
    Overall: 20.93secs

    Renault Clio Sport 182:
    0-30mph: 2.51mph
    0-60mph: 6.73secs
    0-100mph: 17.01secs
    Reaction time: 0.39secs
    100-0mph: 4.55secs
    Overall: 21.95secs

    Peugeot 206 GTi 180:
    0-30mph: 2.70mph
    0-60mph: 6.96secs
    0-100mph: 19.66secs
    Reaction time: 0.31secs
    100-0mph: 4.39secs
    Overall: 24.26secs


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    Fast coupés

    LSV Monaro 440C:
    0-30mph: 2.27mph
    0-60mph: 5.09secs
    0-100mph: 11.22secs
    Reaction time: 0.26secs
    100-0mph: 4.82secs
    Overall: 16.30secs

    Vauxhall Monaro:
    0-30mph: 2.39mph
    0-60mph: 5.73secs
    0-100mph: 13.28secs
    Reaction time: 0.31secs
    100-0mph: 4.60secs
    Overall: 18.19secs

    Nissan 350Z:
    0-30mph: 2.29mph
    0-60mph: 5.91secs
    0-100mph: 14.25secs
    Reaction time: 0.25secs
    100-0mph: 4.22secs
    Overall: 18.72secs

    Mazda RX-8 228:
    0-30mph: 2.51mph
    0-60mph: 6.68secs
    0-100mph: 16.51secs
    Reaction time: 0.30secs
    100-0mph: 4.36secs
    Overall: 21.17secs

    Audi TT 3.2 DSG:
    0-30mph: 2.37mph
    0-60mph: 6.57secs
    0-100mph: 16.56secs
    Reaction time: 0.28secs
    100-0mph: 4.44secs
    Overall: 21.28secs

    Chrysler Crossfire:
    0-30mph: 2.40mph
    0-60mph: 6.94secs
    0-100mph: 17.30secs
    Reaction time: 0.31secs
    100-0mph: 4.47secs
    Overall: 22.08secs

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    The 4W-Derby

    Subary Impreza WR1:
    0-30mph: 1.55mph
    0-60mph: 4.59secs
    0-100mph: 11.39secs
    Reaction time: 0.35secs
    100-0mph: 4.64secs
    Overall: 16.38secs

    Mitsubishi EVO VIII FQ330:
    0-30mph: 1.58mph
    0-60mph: 4.58secs
    0-100mph: 12.36secs
    Reaction time: 0.36secs
    100-0mph: 4.60secs
    Overall: 17.32secs

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    Sports cars

    TVR T350T:
    0-30mph: 2.08mph
    0-60mph: 4.52secs
    0-100mph: 9.95secs
    Reaction time: 0.06secs
    100-0mph: 3.99secs (Woohooooooooooo!)
    Overall: 14.00secs

    Vauxhall VX220 Sprint:
    0-30mph: 1.61mph
    0-60mph: 4.29secs
    0-100mph: 11.14secs
    Reaction time: 0.44secs
    100-0mph: 4.17secs
    Overall: 15.75secs

    Alpina Roadster S:
    0-30mph: 2.09mph
    0-60mph: 5.03secs
    0-100mph: 12.00secs
    Reaction time: 0.26secs
    100-0mph: 4.39secs
    Overall: 16.65secs

    Lotus Elise 111R:
    0-30mph: 1.84mph
    0-60mph: 4.84secs
    0-100mph: 12.33secs
    Reaction time: 0.38secs
    100-0mph: 4.09secs
    Overall: 16.80secs

    Porsche Boxster S:
    0-30mph: 1.95mph
    0-60mph: 5.36secs
    0-100mph: 13.00secs
    Reaction time: 0.43secs
    100-0mph: 4.22secs
    Overall: 17.65secs

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    Clubsports

    Porsche 911 GT3:
    0-30mph: 1.71mph
    0-60mph: 4.20secs
    0-100mph: 9.20secs
    Reaction time: 0.26secs
    100-0mph: 4.00secs
    Overall: 13.46secs

    BMW M3 CSL:
    0-30mph: 1.91mph
    0-60mph: 4.62secs
    0-100mph: 10.82secs
    Reaction time: 0.48secs
    100-0mph: 3.95secs
    Overall: 15.25secs

    (BMW M3)
    (0-30mph: 2.01mph)
    (0-60mph: 5.00secs)
    (0-100mph: 12.12secs)
    (Reaction time: 0.31secs)
    (100-0mph: 4.61secs)
    (Overall: 17.04secs)

    Honda NSX Type-R:
    0-30mph: 1.94mph
    0-60mph: 4.91secs
    0-100mph: 11.41secs
    Reaction time: 0.38secs
    100-0mph: 4.41secs
    Overall: 16.20secs

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    Big Guns

    Lamborghini Gallardo:
    0-30mph: 1.71mph
    0-60mph: 4.13secs
    0-100mph: 9.02secs
    Reaction time: 0.31secs
    100-0mph: 4.32secs
    Overall: 13.65secs

    Lamborghini Murcielago:
    0-30mph: 1.80mph
    0-60mph: 4.00secs
    0-100mph: 9.00secs
    Reaction time: 0.49secs
    100-0mph: 4.41secs
    Overall: 13.90secs

    Mercedes CL65 AMG:
    0-30mph: 2.22mph
    0-60mph: 4.51secs
    0-100mph: 9.02secs
    Reaction time: 0.32secs
    100-0mph: 4.67secs
    Overall: 14.01secs

    Aston Martin DB9:
    0-30mph: 2.09mph
    0-60mph: 5.05secs
    0-100mph: 10.21secs
    Reaction time: 0.28secs
    100-0mph: 4.42secs
    Overall: 14.91secs

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    The Rufs

    RUF CTR:
    0-30mph: 1.69mph
    0-60mph: 3.65secs
    0-100mph: 6.71secs
    Reaction time: 0.25secs
    100-0mph: 4.89secs
    Overall: 11.84secs

    RUF R Turbo:
    0-30mph: 1.76mph
    0-60mph: 4.19secs
    0-100mph: 8.50secs
    Reaction time: 0.31secs
    100-0mph: 4.29secs
    Overall: 13.10secs

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    0-100-0 FREAKS

    Suzuki GSX-R 1000:
    0-30mph: 1.12mph
    0-60mph: 2.64secs
    0-100mph: 5.03secs
    Reaction time: 0.23secs
    100-0mph: 5.63secs
    Overall: 10.89secs

    Ford Focus Rally Cross:
    0-30mph: 1.08mph
    0-60mph: 2.28secs
    0-100mph: 4.74secs
    Reaction time: 0.83secs
    100-0mph: 5.53secs
    Overall: 11.10secs

    MG Metro 6R4:
    0-30mph: 1.40mph
    0-60mph: 2.77secs
    0-100mph: 6.37secs
    Reaction time: 1.01secs
    100-0mph: 4.22secs
    Overall: 11.60secs

    Dax Rush:
    0-30mph: 1.94mph
    0-60mph: 4.05secs
    0-100mph: 7.40secs
    Reaction time: 0.35secs
    100-0mph: 4.15secs
    Overall: 11.90secs

    Z-Cars Mini:
    0-30mph: 2.87mph
    0-60mph: 6.08secs
    0-100mph: 18.49secs
    Reaction time: 0.64secs
    100-0mph: 4.87secs
    Overall: 24.00secs

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    Record Breakers

    Caterham R500 Evolution:
    0-30mph: 1.45mph
    0-60mph: 3.21secs
    0-100mph: 6.92secs
    Reaction time: 0.21secs
    100-0mph: 3.60secs
    Overall: 10.73secs (World Record!)

    Mosler MT900:
    0-30mph: 1.87mph
    0-60mph: 3.69secs
    0-100mph: 7.45secs
    Reaction time: 0.10secs
    100-0mph: 4.40secs
    Overall: 11.95secs

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    The Supercars

    Ferrari Enzo:
    0-30mph: 1.79mph
    0-60mph: 3.52secs
    0-100mph: 6.69secs
    Reaction time: 0.21secs
    100-0mph: 4.08secs
    Overall: 10.98secs

    Porsche Carrera GT:
    0-30mph: 1.63mph
    0-60mph: 3.72secs
    0-100mph: 7.31secs
    Reaction time: 0.22secs
    100-0mph: 4.10secs
    Overall: 11.63secs

    Pagini Zonda C12S:
    0-30mph: 1.84mph
    0-60mph: 3.74secs
    0-100mph: 7.52secs
    Reaction time: 0.27secs
    100-0mph: 4.05secs
    Overall: 11.84secs

    Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren:
    0-30mph: 1.71mph
    0-60mph: 3.82secs
    0-100mph: 7.70secs
    Reaction time: 0.21secs
    100-0mph: 4.10secs
    Overall: 12.13secs

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    Some of the figures are from previous events(Zonda, Murcielago etc)

    Top 5 acceleration: 0-100mph (Real cars)

    1: Ferrari Enzo (6.69secs)
    2: RUF CTR (6.71secs)
    3: Caterham R500 Evolution (6.92secs)
    4: Ariel Atom 275 (7.05secs)
    5: Porsche Carrera GT (7.31)

    Top 5 Brakes: 100-0mph (Real cars)

    1: Caterham R500 Evolution (3.60secs)
    2: BMW CSL (3.95secs)
    3: TVR T350T (3.99secs) Woohoo!
    4: Porsche 911 GT3 (4.00secs)
    5: Pagini Zonda C12S (4.05secs)

    Overall winner: Caterham R500 Evolution
     
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  3. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    No shock here; and aside from all the numbers craze, it's the most beautiful car in that whole list, HANDS DOWN. :D
     
  4. NNO Ferrari

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    ....................on the fender, feet back and spread 'em!

    DL
     
  5. pozzi

    pozzi Formula Junior
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    Does anyone have the 0-100-0 numbers for the F 360 ???
     
  6. GarnetRedCoupe

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    wow those three are close!
     
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  8. noony

    noony F1 Veteran

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    Almost got embarassed by a 20 yr old RUF(well maybe 15)
     
  9. BigHead

    BigHead Formula Junior

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    One of the more interesting things to note in the data is that almost all of the braking times are in the 4.0-4.5 second range, with a few outliers. Huge disparity in terms of cost, horsepower, even power/weight, but to think that a half second covers 90% of the field - in braking. Guess modern tires are miracle workers!

    vty,

    --Dennis
     
  10. Seth

    Seth Formula 3

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    Ford Focus Rally Cross:
    0-30mph: 1.08mph
    0-60mph: 2.28secs
    0-100mph: 4.74secs
    Reaction time: 0.83secs
    100-0mph: 5.53secs
    Overall: 11.10secs


    what year is this focus??? 0-60 in 2.28 Seconds!!!!??

    any pics too??
     
  11. TTBADBOY

    TTBADBOY Karting

    Jan 22, 2004
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    It gets to 100 faster than it brakes from 100.Damn!

    Joe
     
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  13. A.D.K.

    A.D.K. Karting

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    Think either 2000 or 2001 Spec WRC Focus minus the turbo inlet restrictor. And BANG 600hp 600lbft of torque has a matter of fact if all the WRC cars didn't have the inlet restrictor they all would produce the horsepower figures of the 'Killer' Bees Group B cars of the '80s.
    The modern WRC car get 0-60 on either gravel or tarmac spec in the three second range. Mid three's for the tarmac and high three's for gravel spec.
     
  14. Seth

    Seth Formula 3

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    so is that focus limited to the WRC 300 HP limit? or not? just wondering
     
  15. Sin

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    It's a shame the Dodge Viper wasn't tested
     
  16. Mickey

    Mickey Formula Junior

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    Does anyone have pictures of the RUF CTR ???
     
  17. netviper

    netviper Formula Junior

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    Arg... NSX needs more HP... that is just sad. I wish they would throw a turbo on the Type-R and drop the o-100 time by 3 seconds.
     
  18. poyta

    poyta Karting

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    I'd love to see how the McLaren F1 compared to these. Its still the car thats regarded as the one that others need to aspire too.
     
  19. McLaren_boy

    McLaren_boy Formula Junior

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    I believe Autocar (could have been another mag) did a test of the McLaren F1 LM (the road version of the race car, with 680hp instead of just 627hp) and it didn't go very well as I remember, they got a pretty pitiful time, something like 11.7sec.

    Part of the problem was the F1's somewhat wooden brakes, but also; they couldn't get the tires to stop spinning...all the way up to 100mph through 3rd gear...even though they tried different tire pressures, and I think even different brands of tire. The 0-100mph time was pretty slow, for the F1, at around 6.6 or 6.8s, especially considering it has more hp and less weight than the roadcar Autocar tested to a 0-100mph time of 6.3 seconds...

    They also only did a few runs, either 3 or 5 and no run really satisfied Jonathan Palmer, the test driver, but they beat the then current record by a huge margin so they quit...:-(

    So, as a McLaren F1 fan, I would say a 0-100-0 time of 11.0sec wouldn't be out of the question, maybe even quicker, but it's mostly up to the tires, which don't provide enough grip for the horsepower and lock-up under the F1's non-ABS brakes.
     
  20. ferrari_kid

    ferrari_kid Formula Junior

    Jul 5, 2003
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    Suzuki GSX-R 1000:
    0-30mph: 1.12mph
    0-60mph: 2.64secs
    0-100mph: 5.03secs
    Reaction time: 0.23secs
    100-0mph: 5.63secs
    Overall: 10.89secs


    i was looking at these numbers and compared them to everything with four wheels. that's pretty impressive that these cars are competative in a straight line with a motorcycle.

    the mclaren website reported the 0-100 time of the F1 to be 6.3sec. the link is to a detailed 0-100-0 table for the F1 LM. the F1 LM got a 0-100-0 time of 11.5sec. but let's not forget, this was in the mid 90s.

    http://www.mclarencars.com/content/sections/features/lmto100.htm
     
  21. HoboPie

    HoboPie Karting

    Apr 16, 2004
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    The LM creates a ton more downforce than the standard Mclaren which, along with the wheel spin probably accounts for the slower acceleration.

    I don't see it getting under 11 though. The Enzo barely did that and it is quicker to 100 and at this point definitely quicker back down to 0.
     
  22. ferrari_kid

    ferrari_kid Formula Junior

    Jul 5, 2003
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    actually the LM has more HP and weighs less than the standard F1. so the faster acceleration numbers than the standard F1 is understandable. mclaren even says that the LM is the fastest accelerating road F1 built.
     
  23. HoboPie

    HoboPie Karting

    Apr 16, 2004
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    It apparently doesn't accelerate faster. I've only heard of a 0-60 of 3.3 and a 0-100 of 6.7

    That makes it a tiny bit slower than the standard F1. Perhaps later when traction is less an issue it will zoom ahead, but early on the standard F1 actually has an advantage.
     
  24. ferrari_kid

    ferrari_kid Formula Junior

    Jul 5, 2003
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    to me a difference of .2 or .3 seconds is trivial in measuring the 0-60 or 0-100 of any car. when it comes down to that it can be any number of things that make the difference. infact, when you are measuring times to the hundreth of a digit, does it really matter? it would if those digits were the end of a lap time, but in acceleration? if my car beat yours by .2 sec to 60 or 100, neither one of us would know the difference without that stop watch.

    there is a person on the board who knows an F1 owner and i believe the person also owns an enzo. the only fair comparison would be to stick both of them on a track and measure lap times or any other performance numbers you could come up with. i have yet to see a head to head comparison between the enzo and the f1 by any magazine. so a private test would have to suffice.
     
  25. McLaren_boy

    McLaren_boy Formula Junior

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    I don't think there is much chance it's slower than the standard F1...there are just no magazine tests (that I know of) besides that Autocar test, to show faster times. The tires were probably old and worn out, the track surface might have been sub-par, who knows the condition of the gear box and clutch, and they didn't give it that many chances...so there is definitely room for improvement.

    The LM weighs 72kg (158lb) less, has 53 more hp, shorter gears, and wider & lower profile tires...so I don't think there is much chance the roadcar is faster, I just think there haven't been any published acceleration tests that show its true potential.
     
  26. McLaren_boy

    McLaren_boy Formula Junior

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    I agree that .2 or .3 seconds is not much of a difference in the context of testing, that's how much acceleration times can vary between two different tracks with the same driver, and it can vary alot more with different drivers, but I disagree with this section of your post...

    I don't want to offend you...but it sounds like you haven't done much driving, otherwise you would know that .2 or .3sec is actually quite a big difference when you are racing...you definitely will know the difference...it will be a clear win.

    Here, I did a little math, at 100mph you cover 146ft every second, so 146x.3=44ft, meaning the person who is .3sec ahead of you at 100mph will be 44ft in front of you, or roughly 2 Enzo car lengths (taking into account the length of the car infront of you and measuring back to the front of your bumper). Two car lengths isn't a huge amount, but you will surely know the winner without a stop watch...
     
  27. ferrari_kid

    ferrari_kid Formula Junior

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    when i said that i didn't mean in the context of a racing or track environment. i meant by the seat of your pants feel. i've done a couple of track events and understand how much that tenth of a second matters. i guess i just wasn't clear about the context of it. if both of us were sitting in a car, and drove each of them seperately, one after another. measuring the times with a stop watch, neither of us would know the difference, unless we actually checked the time.
     
  28. McLaren_boy

    McLaren_boy Formula Junior

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    Oh, I'm sorry, I completely misunderstood what you were saying...yes definitely, you are correct.
     

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