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Enzo Ferrari Window Sticker Fraud VIN: ZFFCW56A630133019 Marshal Goldman

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  1. allday

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    #1 allday, Apr 15, 2018
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    BUYERS BEWARE:

    I spotted Window Sticker Fraud of 2003 Ferrari Enzo VIN: ZFFCW56A630133019 Sold over at Marshal Goldman.

    http://inventory.mgmsl.com/web/used/Ferrari-Enzo-2003-Warrensville-Heights-Ohio/32920734/

    1. Notice the Lower Right Corner of the Window Sticker image, Where did the Red Margin Go? (LOL BAD PHOTOSHOP)
    2. IT IS A SCAN OF AN ORIGINAL & RE-PRINTED NOT THE ORIGINAL TO THIS VEHICLE (NOTICE THE DAMAGE VERTICAL LINES IN THE CENTER OF THE WINDOW STICKER)
    3. THERE SHOULD NEVER BE A WHITE OUTER BORDER SURROUNDING THE RED BORDER FOR THAT TIME PERIOD.
    4. BOTTOM CORNERS ARE ROUND TOP ARE FLAT (SHOULD ALL BE ROUND)
    5. PROBABLY A COMPUTER PRINT OF A SCAN ON A WHITE SHEET OF PAPER (BUSTED).
    6. AN ORIGINAL WINDOW STICKER ADDED TO AN ENZO FERRARI WOULD AD MILLIONS OF DOLLARS+ TO THE MARKET VALUE! (WONDER WHY THEY PHOTOSHOPPED IT)
    7. THE WINDOW STICKER IS THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE TO THE VEHICLE, JUST LIKE YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER THE SERIAL NUMBER VIN CORRESPONDENCE.
    8. LOW RESOLUTION.
    9. UPLOADED THE MARSHAL GOLDMAN FRAUD WINDOW STICKER SCREENSHOT AS PROOF ON THEIR WEBSITE IN CASE IT GETS TAKEN DOWN.
    10.LOOK OUT EVERYONE 2003 Ferrari Enzo VIN: ZFFCW56A630133019 FRAUDULENT WINDOW STICKER REPRINT TERRIBLE PHOTOSHOP.

    WINDOW STICKER FRAUD PROOF. SO, WHAT DOES THAT SAY FOR THE CAR?
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  3. Gmaccormack

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    How is it fraud and not just a copy? Where is the fraud? Original window sticker adds millions of dollars? Smoke much crack? You have to show they are deceiving people. You haven't. Unless they're claiming that is the original window sticker which they aren't there is no fraud. The fact you've made a YouTube video as well shows your general unhinged or have axe to grind aginst the dealership.
     
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  4. Gmaccormack

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    Ads text for future reference
    "We have just added to our extensive exotic car inventory a beautiful 2003 Ferrari Enzo in Rosso Corsa over Rosso Ferrari leather and carbon fiber with only 1,247 miles. This Enzo comes with both keys, all original books, copy of the window sticker, full luggage set, tool kit, tire inflator an more. Full service performed 9/2016. over 90% clutch life remaining. This immaculate example will be a crown jewel in any serious car collection.

    Family owned and operated, Marshall Goldman Sales and Leasing has been pairing the best in luxury automobiles with discerning customers across the globe since 1978. Every car we offer is owned by us and is on site in our massive 40,000 square foot indoor showplace. Call us today and find out what legions of satisfied customers already know: Our staff's professionalism and our unparalleled inventory offer a buying experience unlike any other. Buy the best, from the best!"
     
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  5. Ducman491

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    Wow! Nice first post. These typically don’t end well for someone like you, allday.
     
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  6. Nospinzone

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    You're right, there is a fraud here, and it's not Goldman.
     
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  7. 308 milano

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    Internet = microphone for boneheads.
     
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  8. Marcel Massini

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    133019 appears to be the car that went to Mr. X. in TX where it crashed and burned. A new car was built which later went to Mr. Y. who was later sentenced to 15 years in jail, the car was then auctioned 04/19/2011 by US Dept of Treasury, Manheim, Milwaukee, WI/USA. September 2014 the car was for sale by Manhattan Motorcars in USA for US$ 3.1 M.

    Marcel Massini
     
  9. Gmaccormack

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    So in your expert option Marcel, is they're any fraud regarding the window sticker?
     
  10. Marcel Massini

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    You probably mean "opinion" and not "option".
    I am not a window sticker expert and cannot comment.

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  11. Gmaccormack

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    Lol sorry autocorrected on me. Yes opinion not option.
     
  12. allday

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    1. MARSHAL GOLDMAN BLACKED OUT THE SERIAL NUMBER ON PURPOSE. THE SERIAL NUMBER IS DEFACED. THE VIN NUMBER IS PUBLIC INFORMATION ON THE SITE HAHA! (WHAT'S THERE TO HIDE BRO?)

    SLIPPERY, NOW THERE IS NO WAY THEY CAN PROVE THIS WINDOW STICKER BIRTH CERTIFICATE WENT TO THAT ENZO FERRARI.

    2. UPLOADED AUTHENTIC FERRARI SUPERAMERICA WINDOW STICKER. NOTICE THERE IS NO WHITE OUTER BORDER (LIKE WE SAID IN THE OP)

    3. THE ENZO FERRARI WINDOW STICKER IS NO DIFFERENT THAN THE WINDOW STICKER OF A FERRARI SUPERAMERICA OF THE SAME TIME PERIOD. THEY ARE THE SAME. BUT WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES...

    4. THE RED BORDER GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND IN SYMMETRY EQUAL WIDTH NOT CUT OFF TO THE LOWER RIGHT.

    5. RESOLUTION LOW.

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    6. WE WILL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT.

    https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cpg/d/ferrari-reverse-engineering-2/6565257260.html
     

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    Who is "we??"

    And what is with that craigslist ad?
     
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  15. 308 milano

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    Blacking out the Vin number on reproduced window sticker is far from blacking out the stamped Vin number on the vehicle.
    Did you stop to think that blacking out this sticker quite possibly protects the new owners privacy from being “reverse engineered?”
    But Carry-on warden wallet..
     
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  16. Gmaccormack

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    Why are you so dense? It's not a original window sticker. All points you've made so far would only matter if it were the original. Seeing as the car in question was wrecked and rebuilt it's not surprising that all the original items these cars come with are missing. Tell us agin how much a window sticker is worth? A few grand off the price of one with it not millions as you've claimed. Why don't you tell us what your real problem with marshal Goldman is? How is this reverse engineering? Do you even know what reverse engineering means? Was the car reverse engineered or just the window sticker? Because you can't engineer a window sticker. You can reproduce it. Where is the fraud?
     
  17. werewolf

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    This thread is a waste of time. So much "investigation" into a reproduced window sticker? Laughable.

    (And yes, i know where of i speak ... )
     
  18. Marcel Massini

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    Will somebody please bring me popcorn and a coke (XXL).

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  19. Gran Drewismo

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    Posting here to increase my post count.
     
  20. Marcel Massini

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    Kleenex please.

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    OP = Fail
     
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    Yeah. I can't understand what the original poster was trying to prove.
     
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  23. 308 milano

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    Sounds like he’s trying to sell Marshall Goldman the new color printer ..
     
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  24. Ferrari27

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    I didn't know that people did that.
     
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    Perhaps I am being naive.
     

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