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  1. 375+

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    Not sure about that Jack. Later on didn't he have a Valeo F40 or F50?
     
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    Come on Jack, you know a Gentleman would fold his coat over the passenger seat not over the console;-)

    And to confirm what 375+ wrote, yes Agnelli needed automatic or special gearboxes in all his cars after his 1952 accident so they made a special F40 for him, #79883, with French Valeo clutch.

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    Oh, I’m not doubting that his injury required him to have special gearbox accommodations, I just have no other ideas about that image. I assume he was unable to use a manual clutch pedal which would lead one to the conclusion that the injury was to the left leg. So where does that leave us with respect to understanding what the picture depicts? Here is what we can see…

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    In the shadows of the footwell is what appears to be his left leg. On the seat squab there is nothing where the right leg would normally be. There is a piece of fabric that appears to be in the shape of a trouser leg that is under his jacket (which is of a different fabric) and is draped over the center console. We can also clearly see a manual shift lever.

    If in fact his left leg is injured, why would he position his right leg in that manner? It appears very awkward and physically near impossible as depicted. But if that is not his leg over the console….then where is it? And is the shift lever a vestige of the original configuration? I’m not familiar with the Valeo system. Does it retain the manual shift lever appearance a la Porsche Sportomatic or does it have its own gear change mechanism?

    I’m left to conclude that yes, his right leg is in that fabric, which would be the right trouser leg, but why is he doing that? Or maybe it’s one of those illusions that’s so obvious that I can’t see it. Questions! I’m calling Clouseau!;)
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  4. Edward 96GTS

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    any recent pix of Enzo’s green Superamerica?
     
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  6. Marcel Massini

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    It wasn't Enzo's.
    8 March 1962 the factory issued the Certificate of Origin, the car was first registered 13 March 1962 in the name of SEFAC Società Esercizio Fabbriche Automobili e Corse on Modena plates MO 74368.
    Here she is in Naples/FL.

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    once owned by a friend here in Carmel, JT, he said it was Enzo’s and engine sn was changed.
     
  9. Marcel Massini

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    Jim Truitt of Woodland Hills owned it from 1982 until 19 August 2001. See also Cavallino mag issue #56. JT showed it 22 August 1993 at Pebble and several times at Concorso Italiano, plus other smaller events. It was also displayed at the Petersen 1997.

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    I think he was just messing about for the photographer's sake.
     
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    Is it a scarf draped across the console?
     
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    It's his leg. For some reason he liked driving like that....

    No, actually his right leg was damaged in that accident in the 1950's so many of his cars were adapted to be driven using the left leg only, which would make it possible for him to rest his left leg up in the console should he wish.
     
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    ^ i think he is just trying to show the ladies how flexible he is.
     
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    Driving "side saddle".
     
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    How could he possibly rest his left leg on the console of a LHD car?
     
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    #167 Nembo1777, Dec 11, 2023
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    I did some digging yesterday and am guilty of falling down the rabbit hole:eek::D Agnelli actually damaged his right leg in THREE accidents.

    First in the forties in a Fiat with his sister Susanna near Arezzo in Tuscany.

    Then the well known crash in 1952 which took place when his then flame Pamela Digby Churchill (she was the ex wife of Winston Churchill's son and later became Pamela Harriman US ambassador to France) had caught him kissing a young woman at a party, Anne-Marie d'Estainville. He was driving d'Estainville home when he crashed she was uninjured but his right leg was badly damaged.

    Then in 1987 he injured it a third time while skiing...
     
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    Ah, a battle of the Titans. Popcorn time!

    (relax, all historians are equal, but some are more equal than others...)
     
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    Driving like that, it's no surprise that he injured his right leg!

     
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    Avvocato was the doyen of sprezzatura so perhaps that explains it?
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    The car looks like its stopped. Anyway no hands on the steering wheel either.
     
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    What year?

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    Check out the steering wheel...looks similar to my uncle's Ford LTD wheel.
     
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