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  1. staatsof

    staatsof Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    #1 staatsof, May 13, 2012
    Have a look at this.

    Fuel Rail - http://www.eurospares.co.uk/parttablePopup4.asp?ID=1539667

    Ever since I picked up my car I've had a problem with this. Specifically, the bottom leftmost metal piece that does the big hook around the rear of the engine off of the right rear DCOE. It was leaking from a crack in the original braze when I was having it shipped back from San Diego and it got repaired there at that time. But that didn't hold and it got "repaired" yet again before re-plating. Well it's leaking once again and before this becomes a disaster I just want the GD fitting out of there.

    I have to wonder if the long nature of this thing doesn't end up causing a too heavy leverage effect that just exacerbates this problem?
    It could use a support bracket affixed to the rear of that DCOE I suppose, but for this fitting it's too late for me to be comfortable with it ever again.

    1. So has anyone recently (last 5 years) ordered part # 36 (manifold) from Lamborghini? A picture would be terrific!

    2. Or ... does anyone have one of the center Tee fittings pictured (there are 2 of them) lying around that would at least match the other two in my manifold?

    I know there are others available in the market place but I don't want to create a complete hodgepodge looking affair. That way I could just make the bend with hose and add a second support for that hose thus eliminating any potential leverage effect forever.

    Thanks.

    Bob S.
     
  2. thedoc

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    #2 thedoc, May 13, 2012
    Number thirty six points to what looks like braided line?
    The solid corner pieces are I inaccurately represented in this drawing as well . Yes I know it's the factory drawing but no surprise there either?

    If your looking for these or the accurate braided hose With correct crimp or a rebuild of the assembly, talk to George evans in Ohio . I sent him mine and you will see the result in pocono soon.

    Gary
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    #3 staatsof, May 13, 2012
    #36 is the entire manifold assembly with braided hose crimped onto the fittings. At a minimum I need a fitting as I described. But I might just buy the entire assembly.

    One of my fittings is no longer usable. The one I described.

    Looking forward to seeing your.

    I was hoping to have my car there but two things need to be fixed. I may use a temp fitting that doesn't match the others.
     
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    #4 Peter K., May 14, 2012
    At least trailer it there, we can push it into place.
     
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    #5 staatsof, May 14, 2012
    :D
     
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    #6 ilconservatore, May 14, 2012
    What is failing on the fitting - the solder joint? Or is the tube suffering fatigue?
    Maybe the second repair was not done properly - contamination in the joint, etc.

    The originals appear to be furnace brazed with some type of copper solder. IMO a good silver solder on a clean joint will cure it. I did the fittings for out CT this way, and Tony Ierardi plated and installed the lines for us.

    maybe try these guys for fittings?

    http://www.purechoicemotorsports.com/
     
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    #7 staatsof, May 14, 2012
    Thanks for replying.

    Yeah it's at least the joint. It's been silver soldered at least twice that I know of and I think someone had at it when the PO still had the car. But I also think that long leverage effect makes the banjo bolt and washer loosen up as well. I'm not a real big fan of these banjo fittings & paper washers but I'm trying very hard to keep the car looking authentic.

    I'm just no longer willing to use that fitting. I envision a future of flames.

     
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    #8 ilconservatore, May 14, 2012
    I don't blame you ;)

    Fortunately there's plenty of -AN fittings out there to choose from, and stock appearing hoses too. Pierce Manifolds is also a good source for multiple weber applications.
     
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    #9 staatsof, May 14, 2012
    Well, Lambostuff says item 36 on that parts page is indeed NLA.

    I imagine that Eurospares will have the same story.

    Crap.
     
  10. thedoc

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    #10 thedoc, May 14, 2012
    i found eurospares hit and miss
    what about Stephan at Ricambitoro in Germany? he seems to have rare stuff and gets stuff direct from factory some how.

    Gary
     
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    #11 ilconservatore, May 14, 2012
    Have you called any dealers in the US? Midwest Auto Group has been able to get quite a few small parts within the last year or two. They may have access to the same database as Eurospares, but their prices were better.

    We did get the hose #36 hose assembly - maybe 5 years ago it was still stocked - but it was pretty comical. Rubber hoses with those little band style crimp connectors, and all the banjo fittings were a cheap looking dirty yellow cad.

    The only piece we ended up using was the long metal line.
     
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    #12 staatsof, May 14, 2012
    Well that's good to know, disappointing but still better to know. Thanks.
     
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    #13 staatsof, May 17, 2012
    Well I have sourced a used version which means a set of used fittings.

    $500.

    Now I think maybe I can make the one fitting for that! :eek:
     

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