Euro 308 cosmetic styling questions - need inputs

Deep front spoiler was an option

No (euro speak "louvres")

Not sure on this one

Could probably be a Euro - not enough info

All of course IIRC/IMHO/WOG

 

What's the VIN? I believe that would tell you.

 

The majority of Euro's QV's had louvres that were body color originally. Mine have been repainted by a prior owner and I kind of like them black. A friend has an '85 Euro also and the louvres are body color. See pics for comparison. My car has the deep spoiler and he has the standard spoiler. My car has the rear roof spoiler, his does not. My car came with 16" wheels, his came with metric wheels. As far as I know, all cars were galvanized starting in '84. The Euro QV's will always have the smaller mirrors as compared to the flag style U.S. mirrors.
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I wish! All the aircraft I fly are much less exciting. If you can find a good Euro, it's the way to go - faster - lighter - sounds better and it looks the way Enzo intended the car to look. If you need any more help, let me know. Good luck!!

 

That rear spoiler was actually an option beginning with the QV, although few didn't have them.

Ferrari galvanized all the cars but did not start it with the 84 models. They started it in JAN 1984 which means some 84 model 308's running around out there didn't get it. Look by the door for the month.

 

Got a car that's a Euro but it has the big American bumpers and only one mirror.
Should i add a mirror or will this hurt the value? Is the visibility good enough to not need a passenger side mirror?

 

Adding a mirror should not hurt the value, the problem is if you have the flag style mirrors a new mirror is rather expensive, I don't know about the other smaller mirrors and their cost. Deep spoiler was an option. Most euro cars I have seen have body color louvres. The rear of the car is the best way to tell if it is euro, if you cannot get the VIN. The exhaust is totally different as are the headers and it would require someone to change both to euro in order to duplicate the rear of the Euro. This would be very expensive, also the rear decklid should have two seperate louvres rather than one kind of 'U' shaped set of louvres.

Terry

 

I learn something new about these cars everyday.

I think this guy is telling me in good faith his car is a Euro but it's actually a North American car. It does have the red front louvers but it's a repaint. The exhaust looks the same from the pics and the rear decklid has the one U shaped louver. Deep front spoiler but only one mirror..a little roundish one.

 

as pointed out, there are "usuals" (small bumpers) and "sometimes" (colored louvers), another give away will be euro gauges.

 

They were not. Euros were body colored.

Look on the engine cover. If it has two seperate vents on each side it is a Euro car. If they connect towards the rear it is for a market that required a cat. The extre venting was to help cool the cat below it.

If it has the two vent Euro design, to make sure that it isn't just US car with a hood replacement, look on the instrument pod for a single (single on the 84's and up) "slow down" light. If it is there it is most likely a US car.

Of course the VIN is the easiest way...

 

huh, learn somethig new everyday...didn't know that.

 

+1 to what BigAl said.
Good info.

 

The fender louvers are not painted black if original they are anodized like the engine vents.....

The paintable ones of course could be body colored or black....

If you have North American bumpers it's most likely a NA car, IMO...would they change that, in DOT work??


Front spoiler could option either way, rear spoiler, once avaliable in '80 -81 same thing......many early show cars had one.....

 

Any pics. of the rear on a Euro showing the engine cover and exhaust?

 

I like the view from the dual mirrors (flag type in my case) but you get used to only having the one bullet one (in my case) if that's how it comes........

 

The euro rear valence usually has semi circle cutouts for the tips to mount higher.....NA cars have the 'mail slot' valence and the appropriate muffler shroud...

Stagger slot perf metal on early ones...louvered 'diaper' on later ones.....

 

The main deal will be the door plate with the VIN, and the engine plates on the rear...

A NA plate is the one we are used to.....a Euro one wil be the one with all the circles on it, indicating compliance with each country's specification........

Rolindsey posted a photo of that style recently.......

If you have a DOT sticker in the driver's door you are looking at a US car....I have seen fradulant ones but it's pretty rare to go to the trouble...

A '79 sold in Dallas with a 'NON CAT" stcker.....someone was THINKING there....as well as breaking a few laws.....LOL!

 

You figure your in a dinky polluting firetrap with no crash bracing or ABS so why not finish it off with only one sideview mirror.

Should have a slot where the doo dads can drag on the ground while driving.

I like it.

 

I was told the rear spoiler was an option and usually installed by the dealers. When I took mine off... I hope the factory did not hack the holes like this. But I believe a dealer would do such a crappy job.

 

Hear is a picture of the rear of my car. This is a couple years ago, now my tiny firetrap has been repainted and I did opt for one mirror..
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Thanks, Terry....see those cut outs at the bottom of the valence?

That's one visual clue, as is that rear fog light.........nice car.

 

Now I always thought the Euro reverse lights were in the bumper with solid amber round lenses above.....what year did that change, do you know???