Are there any F50 european in USA? I heard that those from 96 are EPA/DOT-ables? Am I right or Euro fifties cannot be registered at all?
Gerd Petrik's F50 is Euro on the outiside. Clear turn signals, no 3rd brake light, and no side markers when I saw it a few years ago. I think the EPA part is done, though. It's for sale on his website: http://westcoastmotor.com/
i remember reading a few months ago that the famous F50 in rosso barchetta that could be seen racing around england in the nineties was exported to the USA and resprayed , it seemed that they had a lot of trouble getting it into the country but it got there,
It's a 95 i see. I don't know where exactly i heard about the fact that some F50s could easier go trough EPA in USA... Any idea of the mileage or price on that F50?
According to their ad on DRautos, it's a 1996 with 13k miles for $600k. http://www.drautos.com/Search/DRauSearchDetails.aspx?itemid=214734 They have 2 available. Looks like the second may be a 1997 based on the late production number out of 349.
There is a yellow F50 for sale in Beverly Hills which is a Euro model. I'm not sure what the asking price is though.
It seems that, actually F50s are EPADOTAbles. Which is very good news. Perhaps, and i say perhaps you would hear more about an importing process soon.
I talked with a salesman at Ferrari of Central FL some years back and he said the entire dash has to be replaced in order for the guages to read in MPH. Take that with a grain of salt imo. F50 #001/349 was Euro and now in the US and was converted. The one I linked in the posts above is the only '96 I've seen as a Euro in the US. Keep in mind it's in Florida, too, which isn't known for very strict enforcement on importation...(I'm not saying it's not converted, just be weary in FL)
The one i look at is in Belgium and quite a bargain. 4500km/400 000 euros, so far i got two answers from local dealers: it's not my business to see if the car can be exported and under which conditions and the second was "you can't". I'm trying to guess if there is a production year - s/n range causing more problems to EPADOT... Anyhow, the car will be registered first in europe to avoid some taxes, and then re-registered on the same name on US address.
I know that the show exemption now makes these things easier, but this is a good writeup on the trials of importing a "race" F50 In two parts: http://www.ferraris-online.com/Articles/SCM_200107.pdf http://www.ferraris-online.com/Articles/SCM_0108.pdf
I guess you could call/e-mail that West Coast Motors place and ask which Registered Importer did their cars, if not themselves. Keep us posted, the F50 is my favorite.
Quite impressive indeed. But as there are records of Euro F50s imported, there should be less problems in this case. Anyways i might really consider the show exemption.
The F50 isn't on the Show or Display eligibilty list because a US model exists. Only if you have the first or last, there would be a slight chance.
Unfortunately the S/n is a normal one... not one of the 22 weird post/pre production cars... Will look closer at the file, but i want to make it cross the atlantic.
The issue is the mileage. First of all i was looking at some of the post-production s/n which were matching the initial criteria of 2000kms max but for the price asked (ab 430 000 euros) we couldn't find any. Jointly with the client we decided to include cars up to 5000kms. A market value of an american F50 with less than 3000 miles is more than $800 000. And finding one for sale is kind of challenge itself. This is why euro car is much more interesting. I hope i'll have it cleared out by tomorrow and will provide you with some info.
Off topic a little but I did pose this exact question to G&K (registered importers) and they confirmed that they can legalize euro F50s but NOT F40s. For some reason the DOT or NHTSA or whichever governing body monitors this disallowed the F40 as a model eligible for conversion. G&K quoted the conversion cost for a F50 to be $50,000.
Euro cars tend to be tracked more, then set to US for profit, so be careful. frogwo has good information about this.
keep in mind, the main reason the f50 has problems being imported is the cot regulation on obd requirements. early f50's can be brought in and converted withour much of a problem, as they are easily converted to meet 1995 spec reuirements. later f50's would have to meet the obdII requirement, which no us f50 was designed to do. for this reason, there is a heavily weight of early us versions vs euro versions. mike sheehan outlined the story of the conversion process very painfully in sports car market a few years back
wspeer: Thank you for these precisions. The car is a 96 registration but i need to check with F if it wasn't manufactured in 95, i'm calling F asap. I keep you updated. edit Jeffrey: Phone n°, internet page are more than welcome. frefan: i'm aware of that
Hello, of course i can give it. ZSSTA46B000105111 (130-something out of 349 + 22). I was very busy those days. Anyways i got a closer touch with the car. Ferrari WE says that they cannot say it's EPADOTable but they are not ingnorant of the fact that euro F50 are in US. If any of you have the phone num of G&K i would be more than pleased. I would give them a quick call. Thanks in advance
That car was originally delivered to Belgium in mid 1996. Cars very close to it's S/N were at the factory May 1996. I suspect that makes the car subject to OBD 2 regulations and prohibitively expensive to convert. Expert advice required on this.
I got G&K on the phone few mins ago. The 96 are not importables, nor EPA/DOTables because of the Airbag issue... A big dissapointment indeed. I need to find a 1995 car. DK Engineering in UK still have theirs 50s?
