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Discussion in '360/430' started by rhbtwo, Jun 17, 2011.

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  1. rhbtwo

    rhbtwo Rookie

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    In purchasing a 360 made for the european market and then shipped here, what should I be leary of and how much will the europe thing affect its value versus thesame car built for the American market? I need advice.
     
  2. TALON30

    TALON30 Karting

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    if you have paperwork on the us emissions conversion, about 10 to 15% less than us model
     
  3. hangarsixco

    hangarsixco Formula Junior

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    #3 hangarsixco, Jun 17, 2011
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    I currently own a 2000 360 euro 3 pedal. Call me crazy but I actually sought after a euro model. Price was not a concern for me nor was resale value. If resale value is even a concern for you then do not buy a euro, there are many US models for sale on the market and yours will surely get looked over many times. As Talon30 said 10-15% less then a US model. I assume this price difference is due to the fact that the car needs to be federalized and from what I have read that can get costly.

    Certainly have the car checked; get a ppi! and look it over yourself. Make sure you get all the options you want. When I searched for my euro I noticed most euros I looked at were optioned different then the US models.

    In the end research as much as you can before you pull the trigger.

    BTW, I love my euro!

    Good luck
    Chris.
     
  4. vrsurgeon

    vrsurgeon F1 World Champ
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    I have a euro as well, cost less than US spec car. Same basic engine, electronics, etc. Only the car is as it should be without all the emissions junk.

    I love it.
     
  5. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    You're answering your own question. You wouldn't be here asking if you didn't have a concern.

    It raises a question with the next guy. That's why they are cheaper. And, that's the black mark -- deserved or not -- it will always have.
     
  6. Smaug

    Smaug Karting

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    You may get less when you go to sell it, but I assume you will pay less for it now. So, as far as value goes, it should be a wash. Good luck!
     
  7. netman

    netman Formula 3

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    Buy an F car because you want to enjoy driving it, not because you think its going to be an investment like gold.
     
  8. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    That's very true. But, I'll show you why that isn't always the best policy.

    I used to have a shop that was authorized to do warranty repair for Maserati. We had tons of business as you can imagine. People paid 30 to 40 grand for them. They were annoyed that the car was so unreliable but they still liked it.

    So, they sold it when the warranty ran out for less than half of the value... maybe 12 thousand.

    The next guy thinks he's getting a bargain because he bought a low mileage, well maintained car cheap. But, the first time it comes in for repair, the repair is half the value.

    One year goes by...

    He gets tired of the repair bills and sells the car for half of what he paid... maybe 5 or 6 thousand.

    Now, the third owner who bought it cheap because that was all he can afford, drives in my shop with a turbo problem or a gearbox problem or AC problem or emissions problem or all of the above -- and I have to tell him that the cost to fix it is probably the value of his car.

    The next stop shortly after that is the wrecking yard. Either the owner did that or the car dealer that took it in trade did it.

    The moral: It's OK to buy cheap, just remember they are still expensive.
     
  9. TALON30

    TALON30 Karting

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    #9 TALON30, Jun 18, 2011
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    When you buy any exotic you get screwed on repairs, there is no way around it. when they build the car you think it was made out of gold and the people who work on them get paid top dollar.

    There is a thread that has a piece of plastic that cost around $ 1,900.00 new and looks like it would be $ 10.00 to make.

    If you every go to your local garage and look around, you will see tools everywhere, grease on the floor, and the people wearing shirts with stain on them.

    You go to a Ferrari dealerships and look at their shop (example Vegas) you could eat off the floor, everything is spotless, nothing out of place
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    So if you by a Ferrari you expect certain things. If you are worried about repairs you should by it, because all cars break down.

    As for my euro, I liked the lower purchase price because if it does break down the money i saved would go for the repairs. Why pay more for the same thing...
     
  10. vrsurgeon

    vrsurgeon F1 World Champ
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    I laughed when I read this! :) I presume it was written about the Biturbo.. but it fits the 928 market to a "T". First lawyer buys it, then sells it to regional manager, who then trades it in for a new 911, it then gets bought by guy who likes it's "affordability". Something breaks and it's not a popular car, so some redneck gets it for $1000 thinking "its a cheap porsche".. proceeds to dismantle the engine and interior. Looses interest when the average part price is too high.. and then puts it on ebay. (You can see three at any time under a tarp next to a rested out truck) ;-) Boxsters are following this trend now.. expensive car new = expensive repairs and parts. :)
     

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