Even NASCAR Drivers Don't Like FIA WDC Decision | FerrariChat

Even NASCAR Drivers Don't Like FIA WDC Decision

Discussion in 'F1' started by RP, Mar 21, 2009.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. RP

    RP F1 World Champ

    Feb 9, 2005
    17,667
    Bocahuahua, Florxico
    Full Name:
    Tone Def
    NASCAR's leading drivers have said they wouldn't like the new Formula 1 points system implemented in the Sprint Cup Series, believing that consistency should be rewarded over race victories.

    The system in NASCAR awards points to all drivers with the winner taking 185 and second 170. There are also five-point bonuses for leading a lap and most laps led during a race.

    Two years ago, NASCAR's sanctioning body increased the gap from first to second place and introduced a 10-point bonus to a driver's Chase seeding, rewarding race winners in the first 26 events leading to the playoff.

    Reigning Sprint Cup champion Jimmie Johnson doesn't think the new F1 system would suit NASCAR.

    "I think they are different worlds," Johnson said. "[In F1] you have three teams that can really win and a fourth if it rains. I just think it is a different environment and I am not sure it would work in our form of racing.

    "I still think we could spread out the points and reward guys for finishing better in the top three or top five, and keep breaking that out further. I think basing it solely on wins is probably a bad idea."

    Carl Edwards, who won the most races last year but still finished runner-up to Johnson, agrees that the champion shouldn't be crowned purely on victories.

    "I think if you determine your champion just based on wins, you're taking a huge gamble of having the wrong champion," Edwards said. "If one guy wins one race and runs 20th in the rest of them, and another guy finishes second in every single race, you're not going to have the right guy for a champion.

    "The more I pay attention to all of these changes with point systems all over the world, the more I like the Nationwide and Trucks, where the guy with the best average finishing position throughout the year wins.

    "I think the further we get away from that, the bigger the chance of changing our sport to try to fit in with others, and I don't think that's best for us."

    Four-time champion Jeff Gordon, believes the points system in F1 needed tweaking but disagrees with having the title decided by wins.

    He supports the FOTA proposal to change the points for the top three to 12, 9 and 7.

    "I am not a big fan of them saying just whoever wins the most races," Gordon said. "I do think they need to change the system a little bit though. I think it needs to award a little bit more for first. I like the option of doing like a 12, 9, 7 and have that kind of a bracket in the points.

    "I like what we have right now [in NASCAR] where it pays more points to win. You can really make up a lot of points or spread yourself out from your competitors when you win.

    "It is a much bigger gap that what it used to be. It rewards winning much more and makes you want to push that much harder for those wins."
     
  2. RP

    RP F1 World Champ

    Feb 9, 2005
    17,667
    Bocahuahua, Florxico
    Full Name:
    Tone Def
    I love this quote by Jimmie Johnson:

    "I think they (F1) are different worlds," Johnson said. "[In F1] you have three teams that can really win and a fourth if it rains. I just think it is a different environment and I am not sure it would work in our form of racing.
     
  3. AlexO91

    AlexO91 F1 Rookie

    Sep 26, 2008
    2,909
    NW England
    Full Name:
    Alex
    This just in from NASCAR Drivers: " Duuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrr how do you turn right?"

    Idiots. Although it was a NASCAR driver that knocked Schumacher out of the Race of Champions.
     
  4. RP

    RP F1 World Champ

    Feb 9, 2005
    17,667
    Bocahuahua, Florxico
    Full Name:
    Tone Def
    Can I assume you obviously have no experience with NASCAR?

    Turning left at 190 MPH for over three hours with cars on either side of you with something called a draft take a rather highly talented skill set. Being able to turn right does not make one a skilled race driver. Its just different. I have said this before, road racing's best drivers , including anyone in F1, would have a severe challenge to succeed in NASCAR, but I think NASCAR's top drivers, Gordan, Stewart, Busch, could do quite well in most any form of road racing.
     
  5. AlexO91

    AlexO91 F1 Rookie

    Sep 26, 2008
    2,909
    NW England
    Full Name:
    Alex
    To be fair no i don't have much experience of NASCAR, i've only actually watched a full race twice. But if you look back at drivers that have come from Indy car racing which i think do also race on ovals, the people that don't succeed in F1 go to Indy and the people from Indy don't do very well in F1. And thats not me saying that, Michael Schuamcher once said that.
     
  6. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

    May 12, 2007
    26,826
    England North West
    Full Name:
    Steve
    Alex I'd keep it that way..;)
     
  7. AlexO91

    AlexO91 F1 Rookie

    Sep 26, 2008
    2,909
    NW England
    Full Name:
    Alex
    Lol really.... why? :)
     
  8. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

    May 12, 2007
    26,826
    England North West
    Full Name:
    Steve
    Well there was a big debate about Nascar v F1 driver skill on here, a few weeks back, and it made my mind up.. thats all I can say, to be fair I really don't know enough about it beyond that..
     
  9. AlexO91

    AlexO91 F1 Rookie

    Sep 26, 2008
    2,909
    NW England
    Full Name:
    Alex
    Lol ok then Steve, i was always going to be in the F1 corner anyway. ;)

    I don't think i saw that thread actually.
     
  10. normv

    normv F1 Rookie

    May 3, 2005
    2,767
    Mishawaka In
    Full Name:
    Norm
    I thought Nigal Mansell went from F1 to Indy as I recall he wasnt too bad in F1.
     
  11. 62 250 GTO

    62 250 GTO F1 Veteran

    Jan 9, 2004
    7,765
    Nova Scotia Canada
    Full Name:
    Neil
    I think the "other" thread went into detail about this. That being said, slamming people and things you don't understand has always been it's own sign of the speaker, no matter the topic.
     
  12. AlexO91

    AlexO91 F1 Rookie

    Sep 26, 2008
    2,909
    NW England
    Full Name:
    Alex
    I wasn't "slamming" anybody. Sure i don't know much about it but thats because it's not a European motorsport, that would be like me criticising you for not knowing much about the BTCC or WTCC.
     
  13. 62 250 GTO

    62 250 GTO F1 Veteran

    Jan 9, 2004
    7,765
    Nova Scotia Canada
    Full Name:
    Neil
    Let's be honest, you were. If you still don't think so, then you may need to learn what the word "idiot" and "slam" means.
     
  14. 62 250 GTO

    62 250 GTO F1 Veteran

    Jan 9, 2004
    7,765
    Nova Scotia Canada
    Full Name:
    Neil
    If I don't know much about something, so be it, there's a lot to know, more than any one person can learn in a lifetime of study. Shooting my mouth off with derogatory comments while stating "I don't know what I'm talking about" is foolish, then denying it is lying? More foolishness?
     
  15. AlexO91

    AlexO91 F1 Rookie

    Sep 26, 2008
    2,909
    NW England
    Full Name:
    Alex
    Fair enough i slammed NASCAR alittle ok alot, but when i said slamming anyone i was meaning on here. So i just suppose i should go eat me words now, and i'm sorry for this. :)
     
  16. AlexO91

    AlexO91 F1 Rookie

    Sep 26, 2008
    2,909
    NW England
    Full Name:
    Alex
    Probably shouldn't of said that, i'am man enough to admit i was wrong and i was. Sorry for that again. :)
     
  17. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

    May 12, 2007
    26,826
    England North West
    Full Name:
    Steve
    +1 That's cool, Neil cut him some slack mate..;)
     
  18. R2112

    R2112 Formula 3

    Oct 15, 2006
    2,422
    TX
    Good form Alex.

    IMO, even if you watched it more and knew more about NASCAR your opinion probably wouldn't change too much. Mine hasn't and I watched many races. As funny as NASCAR is to watch, I don't consider the drivers idiots...but then again, I knew what you were meaning by your post and wasn't offended by it at all. Then again, I try to keep an open minded attitude considering others opinions. ;)
     
  19. 62 250 GTO

    62 250 GTO F1 Veteran

    Jan 9, 2004
    7,765
    Nova Scotia Canada
    Full Name:
    Neil
    Unless it differs from your view. ;)
     
  20. R2112

    R2112 Formula 3

    Oct 15, 2006
    2,422
    TX

    No, I'm certain I try to keep an open mind with others opinions, especially the ones that differ from my view. I even keep an open mind with the opinions that are hysterically fundamentally flawed.......I still think they're funny though. ;)


    Back on topic...


    I agree with the NASCAR drivers who disagreed with the "WDC decided by wins" rule. I'm glad it was revoked.
     

Share This Page