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I never understand Naples Motorsports. I am going to pay 223K for a car, and they will always give me bald tires!! http://www.naplesmotorsports.com/images/03%20Red%20360%20Tred2.JPG
Bald tires like at 3000 miles ??????????? Must have been driven real hard during it's present life of 3000 miles or I wonder what else???????????
i dunno dude. i've watched these guys do ebay auctions for a while now, and i find them to be the most forward group on the net doing any volume. the fact is, they are giving you a close-up view of exactly what the tread wear is. you KNOW what the story is without any sort of BS email exchange or phone call about it. my read of this is that they're laying it all out there and you can make an educated decision. 99% of people selling this car on ebay wouldn't have included those pictures. they'd take a "well, if he asks, we'll tell him, but if he doesn't ask how the tires are....". doody. PS: it is indeed ****ING GORGEOUS. PPS: five years after production ended, really nice 355 spiders sell in the five figures. patience will save you a ton of money on the 360 spider market....
keep iin mind that 355spiders never listed for for more than high140s whereas the current 360 04 spiders are now topping 200k,i figure they go down to 140-150k in 4 or 5 years..but then again who knows?
i wasn't saying that they'd fall to five figures in five years. just that the 355 spiders also sold above MSRP for a while after release, and nice late-model examples now trade hands for on the order of two-thirds of MSRP. the same (ratio-wise) thing will happen with the 360s, which are currently selling above MSRP. doody.
I find that in alot of there cars they do a shotty job detailing and there cars have swirls not talking about this auction. Also there auctions and website is unbearibly slows. That car must have been driven really hard cause the tires are almost bald for the milage the car has. Wonder why someone sold it after 3k miles.
Doody, I do agree with you. The guys at Naples are very upfront. I don't have any quibbles about that. However one summer I worked at an Acura dealer, where if we took ANY trades in we would do a thorough checkup, and if the tires were bad we would replace it. Don't you think Naples could sell the car easier if they replaced the tires? Then people wouldn't ask questions like "wow, I wonder how rough this car was driven" To me, a person who spends $233K doesn't care about the price of tires, I do understand that. But to me the business practice is an interesting one that Naples does. I mean why do they even wash and clean the cars? They should just sell them dirty as is. I don't want a car thats perfect and shiny, but has no oil and tires wore down to the cords. But then again I might be the exception. Maybe most F car owners don't care about Tires, but to me at $223K I wish Naples would do a better job. Though I commend them on their honest practices, I question their method of doing business. Then again if you look at their website, seems like they are very successful, whereas I am a fat, lazy, poor college kid, what do I know.
on the one hand, yes. that's just common sense. but on the other hand, it's not like any serious buyer (aside from the random joe blow buckethead who might buy it 100% impulsively) wouldn't research all that stuff (tire condition, paint condition, etc.) and negotiate around it. i've seen authorized f-car dealers take cars in that need various attention and do nothing to them. it's not irrational to "see if you can move it" without making the investments. and sometimes you can find a buyer who'd PREFER that you not make the investment - they'll pay less and happily assume the hassle to make sure it's done to THEIR standards and expectations. remember: for high end cars, ebay is lead generation, not really a sales channel. doody.
Yeah I know you are right. I guess when you have that kind of money it doesn't matter. To someone like me, I guess at that rate of $$, my expectations are raised as well. As always, thank you for your excellent input.
I understand what you're saying Doody but isn't it the joyful experience one derives from owning a Ferrari which is the essential motivation for buying one, not whether and by how much it will depreciate? The 360 Spider is immune from the initial depreciation most new cars suffer and at one time so was the 355 Spider -- see FML 36 months ago -- but invariably the 360, like 99% of all cars, will begin that fateful slide down the depreciation curve. Life is short. It's not a dress rehearsal, so buy the car knowing going in that it's a discretionary purchase and it will sooner or later depreciate. By how much? Who the heck knows, but that's not the point of purchasing a Ferrari, IMHO.
3K miles is about right for a high performance tire that exposed to a good bit of high speed driving- esp. for the drive wheels. So that tells you how the car was driven. Take it for what it's worth. It is a great color combo. And no F1 tranny which is good thing to me.
On the plus side, you get to choose what tire goes on next. On the minus side, I agree, you *really* have to be trying to get the tires to wear out in 3000 miles. Especially since 1000 of those should be running in. The only thing I can think of is track use. I notice they don't give you a close up shot of the front bumper; my guess is a fair crop of stone chips. Beautiful looking car though. Kevin
No, I don't think it's pink. I think it's the standard tan/beige... it just looks much lighter given the color of the interior. I wish it didn't have the challenge grille... I think those things look funky. Does it really improve performance that much to justify the awkward look?
