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Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by Randyslovis, Sep 26, 2016.

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  1. Rbwiii

    Rbwiii Formula Junior

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    I haven't done it yet, but it's shows the possibility in the installation manual. ....you would program it like you would your garage door opener....I might do it this weekend..
     
  2. SECRET

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    So I took a stab at trying to program the Homelink to work with the controller. Definitely could not get the programming to stick. Homelink just kept slow blinking and never picked up the code.

    Anyone know where the Homelink receiver is? Maybe I'm just holding it on the wrong position.
     
  3. Need4Spd

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    In the mirror.
     
  4. bisel

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    If your car is before 2014, probably will not work as Homelink did not support frequencies higher than 400MHz back then.

    If that is not the case then try this method:

    1. While holding the remote close to the Homelink buttons, press the Homelink button you want to program and hold it until the light flashes slowly.

    2. While holding that button so the light continues to flash, press the button on the remote for 3 to 5 seconds, then release the button and immediately press it again. Hold for 3 to 5 seconds and repeat this sequence. Continue pressing, hold, release, repeat until the Homelink system is able to clone the transmitter.

    The reason for this press / hold / release sequence is that it is very common for remote transmitters to time out after pressing and holding the button for a few seconds. But the Homelink needs 20 to 30 seconds to clone the transmitter. Hence the action of releasing the remote fob button and immediately pressing it again.

    Regards,

    Steve
     
  5. SECRET

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    Thanks Steve. Tried it again today but no cigar. Mine is a 2015 with OEM Homelink. Must be my technique?


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  6. Melvok

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    Any explanatory photos please ?
     
  7. Melvok

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    In all cars or only if ordered ?
     
  8. Need4Spd

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    Only if ordered. While Homelink is standard in many other cars, it's part of an option package on Ferraris. You can tell if you have it if you have a mechanical flip up and down toggle for day/night mode instead of an electrochromatic mirror with three buttons on its lower edge, the latter having Homelink. You can easily add the mirror with Homelink if your car doesn't have it.
     
  9. RawHo

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    Will Ferrari void your warranty?
     
  10. bisel

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    The gating factor is the software version of Homelink. In the US, the old standard for garage openers and the like operated at 315MHz. In Europe, the standard has been for a while 433MHz or so. The Homelink (or Homelink-like) systems in Europe supported the higher frequencies. However, the Homelink systems in the US did not support the higher frequencies until Homelink pushed out their software version that supported frequencies above 400MHz. I believe that was version 5 in 2014. I think the current version of Homelink is version 7.

    Your car is 2015 and if the lads at Maranello installed the Homelink version that was current at the time, it should work. You might try again ... cycling the remote fob ... transmit for a couple seconds then release and immediately transmit again for a couple of seconds ... repeat this process for up to 30 to 45 seconds while continuing to hold the Homelink button.

    Now, just because Homelink released version 5 in 2014 ... that does not mean that all vehicle manufacturers installed that version in that year. With Corvette and Camaro, the only other vehicles that I have familiarity with their Homelink systems, cars that are 2015+ all work fine and some 2014 models work as well. So, with those cars, 2014 was the year that the Homelink versions that support 433MHz were introduced.

    It is possible that Ferrari received a bunch of the older Homelinks in say 2013 and installed them into the product line over time until they ran out of the older stock.

    Steve
     
  11. Omegaelite

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    Anyone know where i can get the forza unit fitted in the uk?
     
  12. bisel

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    I believe the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act states that manufacturers cannot void the warranty unless it can be shown that the aftermarket accessories caused the vehicle to fail. For example, installing a nitrous oxide system may very well be grounds for the manufacturer to deny a warranty claim should an engine component fail due to higher stress levels caused by the power boost. But the installation of an aftermarket exhaust system would be more difficult for the manufacturer to show that it contributed to some kind of failure.

    Now that said. It is good to have the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act on your side. However, should the manufacturer deny a warranty claim because you installed an exhaust controller, the law might be on your side, but the cost for you to enforce the law might be more than you would want spend. To that point, if you install any 3rd party accessory on your car, it might be prudent to remove the accessory before you make a warranty claim. With the Forza controller, there are no wiring changes and everything is plug and play. Once removed, there is no evidence it was ever installed.

    Regards,

    Steve
     
  13. bisel

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    What model car are you thinking about installing the controller and where are you in the U.K.?

    Steve
     
  14. Omegaelite

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    458 spider, in the south....:)
     
  15. bisel

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    The 458 is a DIY project. Many people have done this themselves. But, two installers you can try ...

    Kent High Performance Cars, Maidstone, Kent

    and

    Super Tweaks Ltd
    London NW2

    Regards,

    Steve
     
  16. spydermans

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  18. spydermans

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    No worries man - best bloody mod I have ever done! It's fantastic with the valves open!
     
  19. 2Veloce

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    For those who have had both, which one would you get for a 458 spider. Prob will have someone install...Capristo verse the Forza?..thanks
     
  20. Greg23

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    I have the Capristo system installed (about 500$) and it works perfectly! Have it on all the cars!
     
  21. Need4Spd

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    I had a Capristo previously (a California) and now have a Forza in my 458. The remote controller is basically the same. The Forza unit seems more robust and has the added feature of being able to keep valves closed all the time, while the Capristo only had open all the time and OEM mode. I think they both work well, but the Forza is less money, has more features and seems more robust, so it was an easy choice for me.
     
  22. bisel

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    There is some vehicle specific info here. Most have photos or explanatory text for installation on various cars.

    Vehicles Specifics

    Steve
     
  23. LeoNewland

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    For anyone that might be interested, I have a new (never used) Capristo exhaust valve remote control that came with my Cali T Capristo exhaust. Didn't use it as I already had the Forza Kit which works fine with the Capristo Exhaust. Shoot me a PM if you're interested - still in its original factory packaging.
    Leo
     
  24. rockitman

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    I have Capristo and find I keep the valves open all of the time. Perhaps I should have just pulled and capped the vacuum lines and saved the money of the Capristo plus Ferrari dealer installation.
     
  25. Melvok

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    Thanx Steve ! Was it simple to click it in ? What was removed ? Only the airbox ?
     

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