Exoto's Sharknose 156.

Tremendous shots.I'll have to get my CMC out and compare it to the photo's as will a lot of us CMC owners I'm sure.Thanks for the great post !

 

terrific post - thanks

 

See that earlier, looks great.

 

Does look very impressive although i still wouldn't say its worth the additional money over the CMC one. Having said that I have both 500 f2s and much prefer the Exoto 1 - the wheels/tyres on the CMC500 just seem way too small! So no doubt at some point I will be buying the Exoto 156 to add to the CMC i have already

 

no, the exoto wheels/tires are way too big! even the fundamental dimensions (wheelbase, track )of the exoto are wrong! If you take the pain to check against the data (Jonathan Thompsons book"the ferrari Formula 1 cars 1948-1976") you will see that the CMC dimensions are right. exoto copied the old revival 1/20 model and simply copied all the mistakes of that model!
Almost the same happened with their sharknose model. I have tons of pictures that show fundamental errors, e.g. they put a 1962 chassis in the 1961 model! .

 

I think as far as the shape is concerned its about 50/50. But it seems the Exoto looks like the better effort at getting the overall feel of the car, with the CMC looking clunky in comparison. I'd tend to think from the photo's that the chassis looks OK for 1961.

Steve

 

Akist Total bunk.
The model is exquisite. Not a copy of anything. Gorgeous and wonderful. There's nothing like it. The 156 Sharknose is simply the most advanced, cutting edge designed and built model in 1/18th scale that there is. And $500 is a screaming steal.

 

Akist, do you have all the facts and documentation to prove that Exoto used the old Revival 1/20 model to copy over to their new prestine 1/18th scale master piece? Please provide these facts and documentation..
In the end it is what the collector\hobbyist wants... Does not matter if one model has an incorrect feature compared to another. No one can tell anyway because the car doesnt exist anymore (except a replica)...
One could say that the CMC wheels are too small and Chrome and others will say Exoto's are too big.. who cares. Buy what you like and admire it...

 

miniman, thanks for the photos!!! Absolutely stunning model!!! I have the #2 (Italian GP) Exoto 156 already on pre-order..... Can't wait to get mine..

 

fair enough, looking at the actual 500 f2 picture again the wheels do look right, just so used to seeing them over sized on all the 1:43 models maybe:
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This thread is about the Exoto 156. But from another board regarding the 500 wheels on both CMC and Exoto. A guy measured both models wheels against the real tire sizes of the period and it was concluded that Exoto was perfect on one and 1 millimeter too big on the other. One millimeter is very miniscule. CMC was found to be about 1 or two millimetres too small on one and 3.5 millimeters too small on the other. It was concluded that while the CMC discrepancy was far greater than Exoto, CMC still had not made a mistake becuase they were using a restored car with more modern tires (which are different specs) while Exoto was using the spec F1 tires of the period instead of the modern tires. So in the end, it was determined that both did fine given what they were using as reference- and that it was all just a tempest in a teapot. I cannot go back to that thread to show you because it was taken down after about two weeks.

 

I can assure you that mr. Akist knows what he is talking about! I saw several of his CAD images from his work on a sharknose-modell.
Also saw several pics of his SWB body in 1:10 which is incredibly well made.

Every collector has favourites, and preferences. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.... and his wallet..

 

and I can assure you that Exoto models are made by trained monkeys in knock-off Ferrari t-shirts and Scuuneria Perrari hats. And this is not a matter of negotation nor debate. But I stick by my statements and will go down in the flames of appeals to authority - fancy resume, CAD or no CAD . machined bodies or what have you. I heard it on good authority that they just bought a CMC model off ebay and copied that. Those dirty rotten scoundrels.

 

Here is a video about this model. Extraordinary.
Exoto is a total maccacaria.

http://www.exoto.com/eNews/20090427/

 

Maccacaria? That word does not appear in any reference that I have!

 

Except Exoto doesn't bother with getting any marketing rights from Ferrari whereas CMC does. Not a small point. Exoto may do good work, but they do it without permission from Ferrari. Not so nice!

 

If you depress the pedal, the butterfly valves open and close, for Pete's sake.

 

Could be the best mfg model car in the world--they do not license their work and that is wrong and illegal. No excuse for that-at all--no defense for that-at all.

What comment do you have now?

 

I know they are making the best model car that has ever been made so far in 1/18th scale- it even techincally surpasses other companies 1/12 and 1/8 scale models. I like model cars. I like technical achievement in modelling. I know that Exoto is the best by far and constantly raises the bar. It makes me delighted. I don't know about all that other stuff. For me, it's all about the model. And this particular Exoto 156 model is the most advanced model of it's kind ever made.

 

Why don't you take the time to find out? They are not playing fairly, not paying Ferrari whereas CMC and others do. It's not about the model quality-it is about integrity and honor and doing the right thing. Or do those things not mean anything to you? Do you often do business with companies that choose to ignore laws and property rights? Or does the model being "the best" absolve them (and you) of wrongdoing? Clearly we know that answer!

 

You are getting too rough and personal with me 'Termater. I think you are mixing me up with someone else. but yes, on one thing, I like to work with the best.

 

and here you go

http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:cb8F9FBv2xsJ:www.allbusiness.com/legal/contracts-law-licensing-agreements/11715681-1.html+Exoto+sues+mattel&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

This is why I said that I don't know about all that other stuff. And I do not believe there are very many people who really do. Exoto makes the best diecast model cars- that I DO know for sure. And when you press the accelerator pedal on thier 156 Sharknose- the tiny butterfly valves open and close. yay!

 

What gets me is why Exoto doesn't get a license from Ferrari. They charge enough for their models; even if they had to pay for a license, they would still turn a tidy profit on each model. Since Ferrari mainly cares about the quality of anything bearing their name, they shouldn't have any problem with Exoto on that regard, and I'm certain they'd be quite happy to do business with them.

 

ferrari is not happy with exoto and is currently pursuing legal action against Exoto.