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Experience with 360 Euro or Salvage?

Discussion in '360/430' started by jpj2006, Sep 12, 2006.

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  1. jpj2006

    jpj2006 Rookie

    Sep 4, 2006
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    I am considering buying a 360 coupe or spyder. Having seen many a deal in the Euro conversions or salvage title ones, does anyone have experience owning either? I am particularly curious about selling the 360 after (a couple of years later ) getting such a screaming deal on it in the first place. Is it worth saving the 30, 40 or so or is it a sucker bet? Thanks in advance.
     
  2. cig1

    cig1 F1 Rookie

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    You're not going to save $30-$40k on a Euro, no matter how many times you read it on the internet. And it's an insult to speak of a Euro 360 car and a salvaged one in the same context.

    Buy a Corvette

    G
     
  3. Steve R

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    The man's got a point!!! I'm really starting to dig this Mambo guy!:)

    A Euro car is fine....the only difference is the lack of warranty, and after 3 years or so, it's the same as a US car anyways. Some argue it's a better car or faster. As I see it, the only down-side is that it could have come from France? True, there is some hesitation from some buyers, but of 100 buyers, only 20 may shy away from buying a Euro car. The Euro car may save you about $20 - $25k. Dealers knock them to preserve their market...don't believe the hype! :)

    Whereas a salvage-title car only has 2 out of 100 buyers willing to drive around in "Damaged Goods". Friends don't let friends drive salvaged titles! This is how I see it: if you could let your wife walk around wearing a cubic zarconia as her wedding ring, then a Salvage Title car may be your gig.

    And Btw, beware of the "special" salvage title where it was not in an accident but just stolen & stripped....or the owner rejected it after a tiny scratch to the wheel. If you're gonna blow the bucks, do it right.

    how about those vette's? :)
     
  4. Tomf-1

    Tomf-1 F1 Rookie

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    +1000
     
  5. Nicke

    Nicke Formula Junior

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    Euro cars, US cars..... I think it's funny. I hope you realise that on this side of the pond we get US cars cheaper than Euro cars, for the exact same reasons you get euros cheaper (but the other way around) Funny.

    When the exchange rate was favorable for picking up a car in the states, I was playing with the idea of getting a Euro car from the US and ship it here to Europe. After all, car wise, its the same car.
     
  6. Skidkid

    Skidkid F1 Veteran
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    I think everyone has said it already so I won't repeat. I will just throw my hat in the ring saying euros are great cars and a great value.
     
  7. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Quite a few differences between Euro and US spec 360's...All good.

    Only real downside is much of the conversion work is bad. Good news about that is on a 360 the conversion work is not all that invasive.


    Just say no to salvage cars.
     
  8. jpj2006

    jpj2006 Rookie

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    I guess I just wanted to hear from you guys what I suspected deep down. I may in fact pick up a Euro car and NOT a salvaged one. I will let you know once I have made my decision final by writing out the check.

    JP
     
  9. GregD

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    Not to change the subject, but I heard that eventually/next few years the Euro and US models will be spec'd the same eliminating the need to modify anything to meet European or U.S. Standards.

    Has anyone else heard this?
     
  10. Noel

    Noel F1 Veteran
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    yup....what he said.
     
  11. Skidkid

    Skidkid F1 Veteran
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    Welcome back Noel. Haven't seen you on in a while.
     
  12. daericks

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    Some of you say it is and then say "conversion" in your next breath. Can anyone elaborate on what is done when it is "converted"? Thanks
     
  13. duskybird

    duskybird F1 World Champ
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    Depending on the year the "Euro Conversion" will require catalytic converters and sensors for the OBDII system. I'm sure that there are other things. Some cars (not Ferrari specific ) require different bumpers, different or re-aimed headlights and ride height adjustments. As long as the car was "converted" by a competent EPA/DOT facility you shouldn't have a problem with it..
     
  14. Ricambi America

    Ricambi America F1 World Champ
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    Euro parts are not normally stocked in the US, so leadtimes would be extended. It's more than just lenses and cats -- there are gobs and gobs of different items (mechanical and coachwork) that are dependent on the original destination market.
     
  15. thoang

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    Here's another possible difference between US and Euro car. I've been working with a local authorized F car dealer. They've indicated to me that they will not take a Euro F360 on trade for an F430, only US spec cars. Since my F360 is a US spec car, they have no problems taking it in on trade.
     
  16. Tipo815

    Tipo815 F1 Rookie

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    It's ironic how euro cars have a negative rap. The fact of the matter is that they are actually BETTER than their US counterparts!

    Think of it this way - when Ferrari tested the 360 do you think they did so initially (IN ITALY) with U.S. emmissions controls on them?? They were built, tested, and fine tuned WITHOUT all the emissions crap on them. That is where optimum horsepower and performance numbers were achieved. The cars were literally at their best at this point.

    Then came the U.S. versions - add emissions system (clog the heck out of them = less hp) and the safety equipment (more side impact reinforcements, etc. = more weight) and you ended up with a slower/heavier car NOT operating at its optimum levels.

    Once warranty is over I would think most enthusiasts who care about performance, weight, etc. would search for a euro car FIRST. Everyone else's concerns about one being less of a car than the other actually works in many people's favor. IMO a euro car is a better car for less money! :)
     

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