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F-16 overshoots runway at Oshkosh

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  1. Edward 96GTS

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    why wouldn't he pull up and power on?
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  2. 2NA

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    You can bet somebody got yelled at.
     
  3. tazandjan

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    No excuse for that. If you know the runway is short and you land long, go around. P/W on an F-16 gave him ample oppirtunity to try again and not wipe out a valuable asset and potentially kill himself.

    Squadron commander will be wondering why he picked this particular pilot to fly this mission.

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  4. velocetwo

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    to bad he didn't eject.
     
  5. RacerX_GTO

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    That's going to leave a very bad mark in the career folder.
     
  6. beast

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    Here is a video.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1sdI6X44Rc[/ame]
     
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    :(
     
  8. Simon^2

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    Did the pink clown car at the end of the video pick up the pilot?
     
  9. JLF

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    #10 JLF, Jul 31, 2011
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    Its hard to tell in the vid if there was any smoke coming from the tires. Surely there would have been towards the end if he had full braking.
    He's gonna be flying rubber dog**** outta hong kong now.
     
  10. Gatorrari

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    At least it looks like the aircraft is repairable. That could have been much worse.

    Oshkosh seems to have at least one "incident" every year, don't they? When I was there in '83, a guy got killed, fortunately out of sight of the airfield, in, I believe, a KR-1.
     
  11. tazandjan

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    Jerry- Anti-skid brakes were first developed for aircraft, so no, he would not have had any tire smoke. If you see tire smoke, the anti-skid is inop or the pilot forgot to turn it on. Both tires usually blow simultaneously when this happens.

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    Id have to disagree with that statement.
     
  14. tazandjan

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    Jerry- Based on what? Ever flown a fighter? The anti-skid works just fine with the brake pedals fully depressed. The only tire smoke you see on fighter landings is at initial touchdown when the tires go from 0 to 130 knots or so in a very short period of time. I have watched thousands of fighter landings and ridden through thousands. No tire smoke during braking unless the anti-skid is inop or turned off. If there is tire smoke, you have a problem and can expect the relief plugs in the wheels to blow to prevent the tire and wheel from exploding. A brake fire often follows.

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  15. Bob Parks

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    From what I have witnessed with the big tin birds when they apply anti skid there is a rapid pulsing of light smoke. But then we are talking about a lot of weight and a lot of wheels.
     
  16. Jason Crandall

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    That's embarrassing. Not sure how you make a mistake like that.
     
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    While I've never flown a plane, I imagine stopping distances are as second nature to pilots on a runway as it is to professional drivers in cars. I wonder if he was distracted by some sort of problem. :confused:

    All the best,
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    #19 JLF, Aug 2, 2011
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    Based on 15 years of operating in an Airline environment. Ive seen dozens of airliners during hard braking smoke the tires. The anti-skid on ALL of the airliners I have flown doesnt modulate fast enough to keep the tires from smoking some at max braking.
     
  19. Jason Crandall

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    I am a pilot and judging stopping distance and knowing your runway is about as 101 as it gets. I've never flown for the military and never flown an F16 but I can't imagine how this guy did this. That's a career ender. As he hit the end of that runway he must've thought "welp, that's it, it's all over".
     
  20. Tcar

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    ...unlike the career of the pilot.

    He's done.
     
  21. Gatorrari

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    I guess you can't ground loop an F-16.....
     
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    I can't judge since the planes I fly are not comparable, but the fact that Taz isn't defending him leads me to believe the pilot just F'd up big time.

    The only think I could think of would be failure of the braking mechanism.
     
  23. Bob Parks

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    #24 Bob Parks, Aug 2, 2011
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    The F-16 wasn't the only jet to overshoot that day. A few hours later an FJ-4 Navy version of the NA Saber did the same thing but the nose gear didn't collapse.
     
  24. Aaya

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    Strange, it makes me wonder if there was anything unusual about the conditions.
     

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