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F-Spider vs. G-Spider

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by Noel, Apr 6, 2006.

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  1. Noel

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    I guess I'm really surprised that more guys on the board have not talked about and/or are fired up by the gallardo spyder (vs. the F430-spider). I'm not at all talking about either coupe, structural rigidity or anything to do with coupe issues.

    If you are a convertible kind of person and your choices are: Pay ~300k for a 430 spider, or buy a G for MSRP, why wouldn't you? [of course we are not talking about the obvious choice of buying a 430 at MSRP] The one thing that Ferrari has hands down on the Lambo is cache, which of course is intangible. But other than history, racing heritage and general public perception, it would be hard to deny that the G-spyder is an extremely competitive product. AND it's more unique (smaller production numbers), and most importantly; relatively available.

    So what's my point? I guess I'm just surprised there are not endless threads about the g-spyder and how it's the only real competition for the 430 spider. I'm not going to say it's better, faster, cooler, or anything subjective. The facts are: it's really close in almost every performance measure and you don't have to pay $80k over (ish) to get it.

    thoughts?
     
  2. Gary(SF)

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    Interesting how clearly the market is speaking. I'm not surprised there is a premium for the 430, which I think is a superior car in almost every way, but that it is that high. I would have thought maybe 40 or 50k.

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  3. WarrenF355

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    If it tells you anything, there are fewer G-Spyders made with plenty available and plenty of 430s made and none available...

    I'd be for the 430 all the way.
     
  4. LetsJet

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    Pictures? Price?
     
  5. Noel

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    agreed with both of you guys, I'm just not really understanding WHY everyone is much more in the Ferrari camp (I'm a life long Ferrari fan), when Lambo has finally put out a product that can/does compete.
     
  6. SrfCity

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    It's the mystique and people wanting what they can't have. F is able to play that perfectly to the point that people become almost crazy in the pursuit.
     
  7. Chest Rockwell

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    To paraphrase one of my favorite "Top Gear" quotes...

    "the only time a Lambourghini is desirable is when you are 15 years old and it's a poster on your wall. Anyone who can truly afford to purchase either vehicle will simply just go out and get a Ferrari"
     
  8. richard_wallace

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    Hey there is plenty of threads on it in Lamborghini Chat section :) :)

    Also a few points to consider. There are only 400 Spyders being made the first year - so the club is pretty small. They are all sold out into FY07. So there are 400 people on the planet to talk about it or talk it up. (I am one of them!)

    I also have the 430 Spider on Order (has been for well over a year) and at the end of this year I might have it - if they don't push the date on it. Of course there are going to be thousands of spyders made (and sold also) - so there are many more Ferrari people to talk it up than Lambo.

    Why like just one when you can enjoy both. Honestly as a life long ferrari collector - and me buying my first Lambo (Gallardo) reluctantly over a year ago. I can tell you that if you haven't tried it - do it once before you die.

    Both Marquees are great cars - and oddly your reactions you get from other and the feeling you get are very different in both (both good mind you - but very different).

    I just wish I had another 10 car garage - I would have many of each!

    Rich
     
  9. 348 Turbo

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    It's a fair queston.
    Not to redail the thread, BUT, it seams to me the prices of the Gallardos have heald very steady for the used cars. The 360's are falling like rocks. Has anyone else noticed this? Or, are my impressions misguided?
     
  10. 348 Turbo

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    OOps! I meant "derail"............
     
  11. Carnut

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    Well I happen to like the way the G spider looks,and I think it is the opposite of the Ferrari spider looks better than the coupe, but after having a 360 coupe and spider, I went with a 430 coupe this time. To me coupes are drivers cars spiders cruising cars. As far as 360 prices falling like rocks I'd had to say I do not see that, in fact take an 04 G coupe and an 04 360 coupe, try to buy the 360 for what the G is selling for. Yes the 99 (7 years old now) are getting down to low 100's but it took 7 years and a new model to get to that point. Sorry but that is not falling like a rock to me.
     
  12. noahlh

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    I actually think they are. '04 Gallardos that stickered at $19x,xxx have dropped well into the $130s --- that's the price of an '00 or '01 360 that stickered at $15x,xxx! An '04 360 is still well into the $150s these days......

    nlh
     
  13. Gary(SF)

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    You're way off, it's the other way around...

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  14. stephens

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    Both are in freefall. back to the orginal question however, G Spyder rocks all over the F430 in the looks department IMO.
     
  15. WarrenF355

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    Two TopGear quotes to follow-up.

    1.) "The 355 is the best Ferrari ever made. And if it's the best Ferrari ever made-- It's just got to be the greatest car in the world. Ever."

    2.) "While the Lambo takes my heart in this comparison, it is not the winner. It is missing one thing-- A Ferrari badge." (close but not exact)
    (then he comes flying around a corner in a red F50)

    Both Jeremy Clarkson.
     
  16. Clax

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    Whenever there is a comparison of the 430/360 to the Gallardo, Gary is always first to defend the 360 relentlessly. Why can't you Ferrari-biased guys accept the fact that there are other products out there that some people prefer? It's like your mommy is pulling away your security blanket. Get over it.
     
  17. TopElement

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    While I don't see a reason to have to defend the 360/430 as their excellence speaks for itself, it would be expected on this board. IMO, the majority of people buying Lambo's are doing so for a different reasons than people here buy Fcars.
     
  18. LetsJet

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    Do you have a link to this one?
     
  19. Noel

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    I feel like the market value (i.e. cache, marketing, prestige) is an inherent part of any product's price. I just feel like if one were to fly down from Mars and didn't know anything about anything they would be hard pressed to see why the Ferrari commands the premium that it does, relative to the Lambo. with that said, it is what it is, and i'm not going to fight it, i just think that for the first time in the history of Lambo it has really got a product that will compete wit the ferrari (again, not the whole line up, just 430 spider vs. g-spyder). As a current owner of a 360 spider i think that moving to the lambo would feel like more of a "new car" than the 430.

    PS...i cannot stress enough how much i love the 430 spider, my new found taste for the G spyder does not diminish my opinion of the Ferrari.
     
  20. Townshend

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    Both are awesome cars in my opinion, and while I'd rather take the 430 over the G-spyder, I can definatly respect the G-spyder. Has anyone actually driven one of these yet? How are they, especially compared to the 430?
     
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  22. Noel

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    i've driven the 430 spider and the 06 G coupe. different, both great. I think that the lambo is a little friendlier.
     
  23. DGS

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    Well, in the "market" department, I did just notice something on this topic. I picked up the April copy of duPont Registry just for chuckles ... something I haven't done for a while.

    I was astonished at the huge number of used murcis and gallos flooding the market. There were also a surprising number of used Ford GTs up for sale, too. But the number of used porkers was down somewhat, and hardly any used Ferraris, other than a few 360s and one Enzo being listed by half the houses on the west coast.

    To me, that says that both Ford and Lambo are having massive customer satisfaction issues. People who buy those cars get tired of them in a hurry.

    This means that you could probably pick up a used gallo pretty cheaply -- it's a buyer's market for them, so even an offer well under list would carry weight. (With that many cars on the market, it's a long way between offers.)

    But the market also means that there's a pretty good chance you wouldn't like the car, or would get bored with it -- and then you'd be selling in a buyer's market.

    Or maybe it just means that people who like Lambos have a short attention span. ;)
    Which would probably mean that they didn't read this whole long-winded reply. :D
     
  24. yellow jacket

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    You posed this question in a Ferrari chat room, what did you think the answers would be? Post in the Lamborghini section and it will be just the opposite......Charlie
     
  25. robert biscan

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    It's hard to beat a Ferrari and will be the most sought after brand for the forseable future. I never owned a Lambo and thought about it more than a few times but the F car is the top dog. I love the 6.0 and that would be my Lambo pick.
     

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