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F1 2004 DEBUT LAP RECORD ! !

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  1. fiorano

    fiorano Rookie

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    Michael Schumacher just set a debut lap record with the new F1 2004 car. With a total of seven laps being run and only four being timed Schumi set the record this morning at Fiorano. Forza Ferrari !
     
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  3. wax

    wax Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Some trials are happy ones,
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    It's the way you ride the trial that counts,
    Here's a happy one for you.

    Happy trials to you,
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    Just sing a song, and bring the sunny weather.

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  4. 62 250 GTO

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    How do you spell unbeatable?
    O, wait... I remember,
    Michael wins championship number 7.
     
  5. ferrari_kid

    ferrari_kid Formula Junior

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    last year the f2003ga was 1 second a lap faster than the 2002 and was said to be the best car out there. but they struggled through the entire season. i'm not going to assume anything until i see them in australia where the times really start to count.
     
  6. FLATOUTRACING

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  8. Maximo_Tifoso

    Maximo_Tifoso Karting

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    Not at Fiorano he didn't.....JPm broke the lap record at Valencia...then Pizzonia broke the record there of all people!!!
     
  9. Jameel

    Jameel Formula Junior

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    I've learned not to take the practice times', from winter testing, to have a direct correlation to the racing season.

    I’ve been so disappointed in the past years, that I’ve stopped making judgment on the entire season based on a test runs.
     
  10. FLATOUTRACING

    FLATOUTRACING F1 Rookie

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    Sorry not enough sleep and too little cafeine this morning.

    Regards,

    Jon
     
  11. ChalStrad

    ChalStrad Formula 3

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    Be careful Fiorano! It was not a "lap record" It was 3/10ths quicker than the fastest time set by the F2003 on its first track day last year on the 11th Feb. The Corriere headline is misleading - If you read the whole article you see that there is nothing to get too excited about - yet.

    While this is good news, we should not get too excited. Given the progress made in chassis design, aerodynamics, and especially tyres it leaves me quite concerned......remember the new Williams was some 2 seconds a lap quicker than the F2003 recently.............
     
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  13. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    No need for apologies. What JPM did was a lot more interesting than the Ferrari time. If the Ferrari isn't good at the track it was built at, then you shouldn't even uncover it. The Williams broke the record at a track, which isn't its home track and on which other fast cars have run. Not like Fiorano, which is a Ferrari/Sauber only shop.
     
  14. Skelter

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    Well, Pizzonia held the record there unitl testing began this year, and in a Jaguar.
     
  15. Wolfgang5150

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    The Williams was 2 seconds a lap quicker, in the early part of the tests, but Bridgestone has appeared to have made big progress recently. Here are the times:
    29 January, Valencia - Spain
    Place Driver Team Time laps
    1 A. Pizzonia Williams (FW25) 1.09.161 64
    2 M. Schumacher Ferrari (F2003-GA) 1.09.412 93
    3 M. Gené Williams (FW26) 1.10.437 88

    11 December, Jerez - Spain
    Place Driver Team Time laps
    1 P. de la Rosa McLaren MP4-19 1.16.210 54
    2 F. Alonso Renault 1.16.705 118
    3 M. Gené Williams 1.17.162 88
    4 J. Montoya Williams 1.17.339 62
    5 A. Wurz McLaren MP4-17D 1.17.665 67
    6 F. Montagny Renault 1.17.777 106
    7 L. Badoer Ferrari 1.18.335 75
    8 R. Barrichello Ferrari 1.18.371 62
     
  16. Wolfgang5150

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    Actually the lap record at Fiorano is 56:338 set by Michael last March. Today's time was 56:835 - not too shabby considering Badoer was a 57:311 in the F2003GA. Pretty good start!!
    Kevin
     
  17. F1racer

    F1racer F1 Rookie

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    Do you have the best laptime numbers of the F2002 and the F2001 on Fiorano? I just wanna compare..:)
     
  18. Wolfgang5150

    Wolfgang5150 F1 Rookie

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    I don't have F2001 numbers, but here is what I have on the F2002 vs. the F2003GA:
    The F2002 had turned the record lap in July 2002 by Michael: 57.476. The F2003GA broke that on it's maiden testing day: 57.045. The F2002 debuted at 58:620.
    Pretty cool.
    Thanks.
    Kevin
     
  19. F1racer

    F1racer F1 Rookie

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    Thanks!!
     
  20. joeyy

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    looks like a good start but after what happened last year, i won't count on anything. i hope the team can keep one step ahead of the pack instead of playing catch-up.
     
  21. Wolfgang5150

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    Well this didn't take long!!! Michael broke the exisiting reconrd by 1/10th:
    Schumacher began development work on the F2004, covering a total of 100 laps, with a best time of 56”279 - a new record at the Maranello circuit.
    This is very encouraging this early on in the year. Remember Ferrari stormed out of the box, then the pace fell off after the FIA made Bridgestone use tires that had the same compounds front and rear in early May. They spent the next 6 months developing new compounds while the Scuderia learned how to balance the longer wheelbase F2003GA. The F2004 is shorter - which is better on slow handed turns which current F1 tracks mostly have.
    To have this torrid of a pace between the F2003 & f2004 this early is very, very good news..............
    Kevin S.
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  22. flyingboa

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    New Fiorano record for Michael: 55.999
    Perhaps competitors will have to wait some more time....

    Ciao

    Eugenio
     
  23. tifosi12

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    Blick did their own estimate on where the teams stand and set Williams as #1 and Ferrari (after all) as #2. #3 is Mc Laren, mostly because they've been testing secretely more or less without direct comparison and #4 is Renault.

    This is gonna be a nail biter and a heck of a season. Great!
     
  24. beast

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    Andreas;

    I agree that this will be a great season as well. But i honestly think it will be more lopsided than some people think.

    Here are my picks for this season

    1 Ferrari
    2 Williams BMW
    3 McLaren
    4 Renault
    5 Toyota
    6 Sauber
    7 BAR
    8 Jaguar
    9 Jordan
    10 Minardi

    34 more days to go and I cannot wait :)

    Rob
     
  25. 62 250 GTO

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    Struggled? They won the WDC and the WCC. So they didn't win by 100 points? It doesn't mean it wasn't in the bag. Even after MS lost his wing it was still a very good shot at wrapping things up.
     
  26. 96impalaSS

    96impalaSS F1 Rookie

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    I hope this is as promising as it sounds.
     
  27. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

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    Yep it gets even better. MS has finally got that track record at Fiorano with the F2004:

    Pete
     
  28. 96impalaSS

    96impalaSS F1 Rookie

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    Im really liking the sound of this.
     

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