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  1. DF1

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    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/149564/uk-quarantine-rules-set-to-dash-silverstone-plans

    Formula 1 is set to abandon plans to host two races at Silverstone due to the UK's latest quarantine regulations, with Hungary now touted as a replacement venue.

    The UK government is expected to announce details on Friday of a 14-day travel quarantine, and will require visitors and returning residents to give an address where they will self-isolate.

    Spot checks will then be made, and offenders will reportedly subject to a fine of £1000 - only special cases, such as truck drivers, will be exempt.

    The quarantine restrictions will be reviewed every three weeks.

    F1 had hoped to gain an exemption for travelling personnel, especially as they would be carrying evidence of negative COVID-19 tests as part of the requirement for the season restarting.

    However despite initial support for the idea from Oliver Dowden, the UK secretary state for digital, culture, media and sport, the definitive government position is that exemptions for sport would lead to complaints from other business and industries.

    The intention had been to start the season in Austria on 5 and 12 July, followed by races at Silverstone on 26 July and 5 August.
     
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    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/149563/f1-set-for-vote-on-aero-handicap-and-open-source-ideas

    Radical rules including an aero development handicap system and the use of open source parts in Formula 1 could be approved later on Friday.

    While much of the focus in recent weeks has been on the reduction of a planned budget cap, other regulations aimed at improving F1 have formed part of a 'New Deal' that has been championed by FIA president Jean Todt.

    The raft of rule tweaks will cover chassis and engine rules, sporting regulations as well as the wider spending limits.

    On the budget cap, teams are set to vote on whether they support the idea of bringing the budget cap down from the original $175 million to $145 million for next year.

    The idea is that it will then be reduced by $5 million per year over the next couple of seasons.

    The fight over the level of the budget cap has been intense, with Ferrari in particular resistant to calls to radically slash the limit because of the impact it would have on its staff - with it fearing it could be forced to make mass redundancies.

    Ferrari team principal Mattia Binotto said recently that the $145 million limit was as low as his team would like to go.

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    "The $145m level is already a new and demanding request compared to what was set out last June," he told the Guardian.

    "It cannot be attained without further significant sacrifices, especially in terms of our human resources.

    "If it was to get even lower, we would not want to be put in a position of having to look at other further options for deploying our racing DNA."

    While teams like McLaren wanted the level to be even lower, the future glidepath plan looks set to be a compromise that most teams can accept.

    Beyond the budget caps, team are also set to vote on a range of other rules tweaks to reduce costs - including potential for tokens on chassis developments.

    Longer term, there is also a proposal for a radical aero development handicap system, where the worst performing teams are allowed more windtunnel and CFD development time compared to the more successful outfits.

    While F1 has previously steered clear of more obvious handicap systems such as success ballast, it is understood that the aerodynamic development plan has gathered support as it is felt to be much less artificial. The hope is that it will help close up the grid.

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    Teams will also be asked to back the idea of the use of open source parts in F1 - whereby designs of standard type items like steering columns and pedals are shared so smaller teams can save research and development costs.

    The raft of measures are set to be put to an e-vote later on Friday, with unanimous support needed to get the measures guaranteed for this year and beyond.

    However, under new privileges handed down to the FIA, the governing body can ratify measures that it feels are important for safeguarding the future of a championship if there is majority support.
     
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    It's hard to believe the British Government is deliberately sabotaging one of its greatest industries. Thousands of UK workers depend on F1 and the $ it generates. Plus it is a hallmark industry for global exposition of the High Tech capabilities of this nation. But no, no exception granted. Baffoons.
     
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    I don't think they deliberately sabotage the motor industry, but they are answerable to a highly critical public.
    They were probably advised to be cautious to avoid being accused of negligence.
    The figures for Britain aren't good, and they fear a second wave of contaminations if they relax the rules.
    "Damn if you do, damn if you don't" kind of situation.
     
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    Pressure from others to gain the same exceptions was too much to for them to only grant F1. I think they could find a solution if they make more efforts.
     
  7. DF1

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    Silverstone boss Stuart Pringle says he "remains optimistic" that the British GP will be able to take place this summer.

    Home Secretary Priti Patel on Friday confirmed government plans for a 14-day quarantine for travellers arriving in the UK from June 8.

    Sky Sports understands that the government will continue to explore special solutions for elite sports, including Formula 1.


    Under strict and extensive 'biosphere' conditions with the testing of personnel for COVID-19 every two days and using charter aircraft, F1 has been working on a plan to start the season with two races in Austria the start of July before heading to Silverstone at the end of that month for two more events at the Northamptonshire track.

    Silverstone mnaging director Stuart Pringle is confident F1 can prove its personnel can enter the UK safely without the need for quarantine.

    In an interview on Friday with Sky Sports, Pringle said: "It's a very complex sport to get going because it's a global championship with a huge logistical tail. So Formula 1 does need to know that it can set off on its global travel and be able to come in and out of its home base.

    "I am very clear that the importance of the industry is understood by government. I remain very optimistic that they will find a way. I'm very, very conscious that it's extremely complicated drafting these things and working up against ever-moving deadlines - it's not a task I'd wish to undertake.

    "So I remain optimistic that a sensible and pragmatic solution, which puts the onus on the sport quite rightly to come up with the right solution, can be found."

    Pringle added that he was "100% confident" that F1's health and safety procedures would be deemed sufficient to run the event, adding: "They have already got a highly-developed set of procedures in place."

    Although it is already confirmed that the planned events would run without fans in attendance, Pringle said the significance of the British GP was about more than just about sport.

    "This isn't just 90 minutes of an exciting sporting race. This is about getting an industry back to work," said Pringle, with seven of F1's 10 teams based in the UK.

    "This is about 40-plus thousand's people's livelihoods being ignited.

    "The racing is at the very top of the pinnacle. Formula 1 is absolutely the top of the motorsport tree, it's the bit that we see and it's the most visible bit. But it is the stand-bearer for this industry and it's about getting an industry started again.

    "It's fantastic that we've got many other sectors back up and running. That the construction work is back up and running. We know that the supply chain of food has never missed a beat.

    "Our industry has stopped - stopped full stop - and we need to get it back going again. There are a lot of people's livelihoods associated with this. It's not so much about a race, it's much more about getting back to business."

    More to follow...
     
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    The UK should help NHS and critical responders enjoy a day at the races. Spaced fully for safety of course. Only in the main stand at start finish area. Would be good I think. Say thank you and highlight F1 being back and helping out those who fight for those that are sick and need care.
     
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    What others?

    F1 is THE #1 sport in the world* and 80% of the teams are based in the UK.

    What comes even close to that?

    *Short of World Cup and the Olympics but they are not a contender in this situation.
     
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    New update: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/149576/f1-not-exempt-from-uk-government-quarantine-rules


    Formula 1 has been formally told it will not be granted an exemption to the British government's requirements for all travellers arriving in the country to be put in quarantine.

    The news means the British Grand Prix will almost certainly be unable to go ahead on the July date it had originally been looking at.

    During a briefing held at Downing Street on Friday afternoon, the British home secretary Priti Patel confirmed that all arrivals in to the UK from 8th June will have to go in to self-isolation for 14 days.

    A small list of exemptions have been granted, but these do not include top level sports like F1.

    The government said that there would be limited exemptions, which includes road haulage and freight workers, medical professionals who are helping the fight against coronavirus, seasonal agricultural workers who will self-isolate on the property where they are working and staff who are needed for essential or emergency works.

    Earlier this week, an F1 spokesman said that the quarantine plan would make hosting the British GP for all teams impossible and could have wider implications for the industry.

    "If all elite sport is to return to TV, then exemptions must be provided," a spokesperson said.
     
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    Teams that make their own engines should have a much higher cap than those who buy their engines from other teams.
     
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    Let's not forget they also sell these engines, so make some money out of that operation.
    But it should be factored in their budget, I agree.
     
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    F1 wants exciting championship: No more wind tunnel and secrets for top teams
    Formula 1 has announced a new budget cap, but in addition to the far-reaching budget cap that will continue to decline in five years' time, a handicap and some form of standardization are also part of the package that the teams have agreed to.

    First and foremost, there is the budget cap, which is intended to bring the field of participants closer together. On the engine side and drivers may be spent extra, but that's all. If the amount continues to drop over the years, more and more teams will be able to tap the limit of the budget cap.

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    In addition to the budget cap, a so-called 'Aero handicap' is also part of the new plans for F1. This should ensure that the costs remain lower, but it is also a kind of brake on the top teams. The top teams of Formula 1 will have less time in the wind tunnel and also less time to develop. In this way the smaller teams can make up the gap with the top teams.

    In addition, Formula 1 was also busy standardizing parts and found a solution for that. It did not opt for standard parts, but for an 'open source' approach. This means that every team must be open about how a part is made, so that smaller teams do not have to invent the wheel themselves and can simply copy it. This will also reduce costs and bring the teams closer together on the grid.
     
  17. Mitch Alsup

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    They should rename it to SpecF1
     
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    This "concession" type system has worked pretty well in MotoGP the past few years...

    It's been a stacked deck in F1 for much too long. I much prefer this approach - giving the underfunded, under performing teams more development options, rather than something like the horrendous BOP games that have destroyed SportsCar racing.
     
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    True, F1 could learn a lot from MotoGP.
    Liberty and the FIA should get in touch with Dorna and the FIM . o_O
     
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    Perhaps if they had a buy-out program.

    Anyone with the $$$ can buy the cars of the podium drivers, for say $10M each.
    Thus, it may well be worth it for a team to buy another team's car to investigate the technology.
     
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    Yes you are correct. It is now moving to spec series status with the new rules. If one wants to see how a series should not be modified and stray from what foundation is left - here it is. When a team can just completely copy a car, like Pink Ladies of Stroll have done..........the series is in big trouble.
     
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    That's another good idea.
    Didn't they have that at Indianapolis many years ago ?
    I remember reading in the 60s, that the winning at Indy car had to be put on sale with a price limit.
    That's the way US chassis came to be copies of Jim Clark's Lotus and Graham Hill' Lola, that won in 65 and 66.
     
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    Not necessarily in my view.
    Some components shouldn't have to be "re-invented" by each team every year.
     

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