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F1 2023 IMOLA (Emilia Romagna) Pre-Race Thread

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  1. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Imola will be crucial:

    - Merc is bringing a new floor + front susp. + sidepods
    - Ferrari is introducing a new rear suspension, complementing the Miami floor (worth 0.1s) and Spain upgrade (worth 0.3s) [source: @GiulyDuchessa]


    Don't expect them to extract 100% from the start.



    Aston is bringing a significant package as well!

    Maybe they have the least room for improvement as they are the team (among these 3) with the smaller problems, OR it will thrust them closer to RB.
     
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  2. absostone

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    So Merc is bringing a new car for lulu and the English muffin basically.
     
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  3. jgonzalesm6

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    Yeah, let's see if this upgrade actually works. Probably will be some hit-and-miss from the on-set at this 1st race but I'm sure it will be dialed in after Imola. All free practices with flo-viz and aero-rakes should be taken to it's full timing with this B-Spec W14 to get as much correlation and aero information as possible.
     
  4. absostone

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    They’ll definitely try. And if that doesn’t work they’ll slow everyone else.
     
  5. schumacherf2006

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    Wait, merc is bringing a new car??? Any speculations what the re-vamp is???
     
  6. 4re4ever

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    These teams are multiple seconds behind. They need to be bring alot more.
    Simply to many rules and limitations in F1 now, it's not even racing. Its hard to watch and clearly these budget can breaches were not taken seriously enough when the offending teams are even faster. I can sadly see why so many are investing in WEC etc now

    It needs a full hard reset for everyone best interests
     
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  7. TonyL

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    You should try English muffins, they are tasty, seven varieties available!
     
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  8. william

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    +1
     
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  9. jpalmito

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    When you buy 5000€ tickets to see a borefest then something isn’t working anymore.
    Stupid and acculturated famous people all around the track are just symptomatic of this.
    Miami Gp was the perfect experience of a decadent society.
    I’m just waiting now for Las Vegas..
     
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  10. steved033

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    ...gonna be a train wreck...

    sjd
     
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    I definitely enjoyed WEC in Spa more so than any F1 event. F1 is an "event" now, not a race...and the drivers know it well, but dont care, as long as they are cashing in
     
  12. jgonzalesm6

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    If they want me to shell out over 500 euros per ticket (let alone 5000) they better have some exciting engines at the very least, or be capable of providing a very good race indeed on a regular basis.

    These current (post 2017) leviathans, aren't it. 2022 regs to 2003 car sizes. That'll bring them down to around 660kg thereabouts. The racing will be good.

    Unfortunately Liberty seems to focused on selling million dollar tickets to vegas.

    ****s.
     
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  14. DeSoto

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    WEC is not so exciting anyway. It's Toyota plus the rest fighting for the scraps, just like in F1 with Red Bull. It's interesting now because there are Ferraris and other new cars, but just wait till the novelty fades away and the BOP politics kick in. Porsche is already moaning about their BOP, and things will get worse.
     
  15. william

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    WEC is for the connoisseurs. ;)
     
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  16. DeSoto

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    For the "poseurs" I´d say.
     
  17. johnireland

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    So they are developing all these new car parts, and testing them for hours on simulators, and staying within budget caps? Why do I sense that the whole budget charade was to give season break to the mid pack cars, and try to convince the back markers not to drop out.
     
  18. Jack-the-lad

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    Quite so. At Goodwood Members’ Meeting last month the two remaining Brabham BT52s did some demonstration laps. Ricardo Patrese drove one of them. It was remarkable…almost jarring….how much smaller they are compared with modern F1 cars, and how beautiful…almost organically…they are as well. Virtually devoid of all the flapdoodle aero tech and ducting “air management” slathered all over. There’s probably a YouTube video of it or something on the Goodwood web site. It’s worth seeing.
     
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    BOP sucks the life out of competition.
     
  20. jgonzalesm6

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    No way teams are staying within the budget caps for 2023.

    We'll find out towards the end of 2023 or beginning 2024 about whom went beyond the budget cap.
     
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  21. william

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    BoP brings parity between cars of completely different conceptions; it allows diversity, and stops the arms race.
    If we take the GT example (GT3), about 12 different makes participate in different championships.
    Without BoP, only 2 or 3 would have any chance, and the others wouldn't compete at all.
    I used to be against BoP when it was started, now I see the benefit of it. I has been beneficial to racing, IMO.
     
  22. DeSoto

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    I get that there must be BOP for the GT cars, but it defeats the purpose of building a track only prototype.
     
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  23. william

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    It's the same principle: instead of 6 or 8 constructors interested, you would have only 2, or even one like we have seen for many years.
    People call it snoozfest when it's only Audi, Porsche, or Toyota that can win.
    It all depend what you wish for. I am in favour of a large participation from many different makes with different technical solutions, not an arms race, where only 2 brands compete, and finally one dominates.
     
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