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F1 actuator bleed screws, actuator removal/reinstall & bleeding procedure

Discussion in '360/430' started by 430b, Jul 25, 2016.

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  1. 430b

    430b Karting

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    #1 430b, Jul 25, 2016
    Is it possible to:
    1) remove the F430 F1 actuator and tighten the bleed screws
    2) reinstall the actuator w/o any special alignment tool/SD3
    3) bleed the air out of the system/actuator without any SD3 or Leonardo computer?

    My understanding is the formal shop process is to unbolt the actuator, connect the SD3 and then put the actuator through a series of shift motions while loosening and tightening the bleed screws at a certain time and in a certain order. Then the actuator is bolted back up to the trans (not sure if there's any alignment tool for this or SD3 setup needed)

    Is there a non-SD3 DIY process to do this that will ensure both the actuator and EV lines are free of air?

    Once the actuator is removed, can it be bolted back up after the screws are tightened w/o needing to 'align the lever'

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/attachments/360-430-sponsored-yellow-compass-group/1013457d1253215227-new-360-f430-f1-tool-actuator-lever-alignment-aka-how-pro-shop-saves-%241000-wsm-extract_1.jpg
     
  2. mwstewart

    mwstewart F1 Rookie

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    #2 mwstewart, Jul 26, 2016
    It requires and SD3 and the tool. It would be possible to develop an electronics system to run the pump and open the valves at the required time, but but you'd still need the alignment tool.
     
  3. 2NA

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    #3 2NA, Jul 26, 2016
    No alignment tool necessary.

    You will need an SD3 (or equivalent) to run the bleeding program and self-learn when it's back together.
     
  4. 430b

    430b Karting

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    #4 430b, Jul 26, 2016
    Good to know, thank you

    Is the self learn for the gear selection/engagement sensors?
     
  5. 2NA

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    #5 2NA, Jul 26, 2016
    Yes.
     
  6. NSXturbo

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    #6 NSXturbo, Jul 26, 2016
    If one has an Autoenginuity diagnositic interface that can activate the 5 actuator solenoids individually but doesn't have a specific bleed program, can you accomplish bleeding the actuator properly. And is there a particular sequence of solenoid activation that would be followed?
     
  7. NSXturbo

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    #7 NSXturbo, Jul 26, 2016
    Disregard my prior post. The Autoenginuity has the bleed function. It worked like a champ!
     
  8. 430b

    430b Karting

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    #8 430b, Jul 26, 2016
    I found a video of how it works on a bench. You can see the bleed screws tightened as the actuator runs in test mode

    http://youtu.be/YJFdoflHLXY
     
  9. 24000rpm

    24000rpm F1 Rookie

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    #9 24000rpm, Jul 26, 2016
    yea, it sure has to be tighten or there'll be red fluid splashing out?

     
  10. 2NA

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    #10 2NA, Jul 27, 2016
    No, those screws open bypass ports.
     
  11. 430b

    430b Karting

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    #11 430b, Jul 27, 2016
    It was interesting that no fluid was coming out prior to him tightening the screws (not sure where in the process the video started though). I assume it's just a normal solid body screw and you unscrew it until air and a bit of fluid runs out of the hole to bleed, then tighten it to close the port?
     

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