F1 Driving Technique

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/360-430/444313-neutral-vs-1st-gear-red-light.html

 

In real cars we just use the clutch

 

I pull both paddles just before the downshifting starts, which is around 20~30kmh (if you're not in sport mode) because the downshifts are unnecessary and must generate some gearbox wear. Obviously if the light's been red for a while, you're going to leave it in gear, in case you have to take off quickly. Remembering that in most Ferraris you're not going to be in more than 3rd gear anywhere around town.

In a manual car I knock it into neutral at similar speed, so it's no different. I think the key to getting good life out of an F1 clutch is to drive and think about it like a manual, rather than an auto. It soon becomes 2nd nature and I've come to appreciate the F1 system, having been an uninformed bigot before.

Brakes are for slowing down, gears for speeding up - just ask Fangio.

 

OK, let's line your "real" car up against my "not real" one and see who gets to 100mph first.

Or, jump in my Indy car and see if you can get it moving at all, with a sintered metal clutch and 100mph 1st gear.

 

before??

 

Steve, I don't think it has anything to do with clutch wear. In the old days, with those pesky manual cars, you didn't leave them in gear at the lights because of the wear to the thrust bearing IIRC, how that problem was overcome, and when, with F1 g/b I'm not sure...or even IF it's been overcome.

 

Sounds like it's still a thrust bearing issue, then.

If memory serves me correctly, it was the 360 that was the first car to overcome that problem.

Let us know when you get to the bottom of it

 

In a carby 308 it's because the clutch is so heavy.

 

heavy? maybe if you have legs like jelly. I don't have an issue with it. Of course, my car is properly maintained.

 

They are very heavy.

The number of times I used to get out of mine and into my Laser 4WD Turbo daily back then and think the clutch was rooted because it went straight to the floor!

QV's are nowhere near as heavy of course - and they are still a cable.

 

OK, let's go around EC and see who comes across the line first, sports car Vs straight line speed ............ I was just having a laugh with Steve , I have no real seat time in F1 'boxes so have know eye deer really about them

I'd be happy to jump in ANY open wheeler as I think they are the ultimate cars ..... road cars posing as race cars have no chance against REAL race cars ..... I'm sure a formula ford would clean me up

 

It happened to me getting out of my GT4 and into my truck.

 

I drove Rennie's old car (QV) the other day and found the clutch pressure good as usual but not as positive as either my QV clutch or the 355's but I do remember my GT4 had a relatively heavy pedal compared to the QV

My Lexus clutch is very sloppy

 

You bought a Daytona ??!!

 

wow.....so wrong.

drive a boxer or 365 old man's car and tell me a 308 clutch is heavy.

AND...I still don't agree with you, but then again, I can climb up a flight of stairs without puffing.

 

Yeah, but on hire purchase (and that's GTB4, you numpty)

 

Don't be stupid, of course I'm not wrong!

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/australia/267814-%2A%2A%2A%2A-google-ask-horse.html

A Boxer is another level of heaviness, one of the biggest faults of the model.

I am as fit as a fiddle and do 5km of swimming squad training a week but don't see what that has to do with your denial of the truth.

 

You're just wrong.....fit as a fiddle?? lol...good one!

I currently have a carby 308 and don't find the clutch heavy.....so, what does that mean? either you're piss weak, you haven't driven one that's properly set up, you have to HTFU or you're too used to modern 4 cyl jap cars. Take your pick.

Maybe it's time for you to buy a 575.

 

Is it heavier than the Beatle?

I'd never buy a 575.

 

it's about the same. I wouldn't call either light, but I wouldn't call them heavy either.