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  1. mwstewart

    mwstewart F1 Rookie

    Feb 5, 2014
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    Thanks Taz, all useful to know. Strange ratio choices :)
     
  2. sherpa23

    sherpa23 F1 Veteran
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    So in other words, unless you're doing 15 mph in reverse, the clutch is always slipping.

    A technical answer is always welcomed but sometimes it's important to recognize the practical application. I don't know if I have ever done reverse in anything more than a crawl; it's always slipping for me.
     
  3. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    A correct answer is always to be preferred, with any disclaimers you desire. Reverse gear is no different from any other gear in the gearbox in how it is treated by the F1 system. Propagating old wives' tales does nobody any good. If you are squirreling around in your garage or driveway in 1st gear, you will see the same thing except for the difference in gear ratios.
     
  4. yangstein

    yangstein Formula Junior

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    Race cars aren't made to be driven on reverse unless there is an incident. F-1 itself was build for race purpose I assume (No?) for the performance and I am sure Ferrari was not focused much time on reverse mode that will wear the clutch more. You can find few valet parking guys trying to show off how fast they can park cars and some of exotics ended up burning the clutch by reversing the car fast (Smoke coming out) on the video.
     
  5. StickBreitling

    StickBreitling Formula Junior

    Oct 12, 2012
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    I prefer the feel of the F1 box and both my Maserati GT and F430 have it. I like the mechanical feeling of the gear switches. Yes, it's not as fast as a DCT, but I feel more connected. The modern switching gearboxes are too smooth.

    I follow the F1 rules when driving the car. Drop into neutral when stopped. Lift the foot off the gas for a moment before you switch gears.

    I would like a manual car, but I've not driven one in years so would be completely rubbish at it. I'd be that idiot who stalls the car at the traffic lights. Not a cool thing to do in a Ferrari.
     
  6. Eric C

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    I didn't think you were supposed to let off the gas when shifting?
     
  7. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Eric- No rev matching except in Sport (360) or Race (F430).
     
  8. I'm 360 Canuck

    I'm 360 Canuck Formula 3

    Nov 21, 2015
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    we're talking tens of thousands of cars being made for the street here, so I don't buy that for an excuse. i think owners get too caught up in walter mitty-esque racing fantasies with these things. theres lots of non-racing components in 360s, so I see it as a simple oversight.
    for me, that's kind of the problem with the f1 technology, it comes across a little like a 1.1 or some other early release version of a technology. obviously great for its time, but with flaws.
     
  9. Andrie

    Andrie Formula Junior

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    That is correct. It is even mentioned on the manual.

    If you lift when you shift, the ECU think toure slowing down.
     
  10. Russell996

    Russell996 Formula 3

    Sep 24, 2010
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    Incorrect. The manual is known to be wrong. If you feather the throttle as you would in a manual car (which is what it is) you will achieve smoother changes at lower revs. Maximum attack for sure no lift. If you attended any Ferrari driving courses back in the day you were taught to feather the throttle to achieve the smoothest changes.


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