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    I went to quite a few GPs in Canada, but not in 1995. In retrospect, I wish I had!
     
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    Fortunately, John Frankenheimer's cameras were rolling, and a lot of this race was immortalized in the movie "Grand Prix". If not for the rain, Jochen Rindt might have scored his maiden victory in the Cooper-Maserati.
     
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    Or as they used to refer to him in the day, "Bruno Jack O'Malley".
     
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    One could say that it was the 1966 Belgian GP that decided Surtees' fate at Ferrari. Although he won from Jochen Rindt, team manager Eugenio Dragoni reported to Enzo Ferrari that it had taken several laps for Surtees to overtake Rindt in an inferior car. That created doubt that Surtees had lost the edge after his accident in a CanAm race the previous year. The rest is well documented.
     
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    I never understood why Bruno Giacomelli never made his mark in GP, having easily dominated F2 in previous years.
     
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    From what I've read, they were ready to fire John before Spa, but his victory forestalled that until Le Mans. I don't think the '66 Cooper was that inferior, and John sort of proved that when he switched to Cooper and beat Ferrari!
     
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    Team manager Dragoni didn't like Surtees (who could be awkward at times), and constantly undermined him.
    He preferred Italian drivers at the Scuderia, and liked Bandini.
    Dragoni was a personal friend of Enzo Ferrari, who relied on his reports to form an opinion.
    The Le Mans incident, Surtees visiting Maranello to end his contract, and his subsequent win in a Cooper-Maserati later in the year must have made Ferrari realised he had been badly advised: he sacked Dragoni at the end of the year. Ferrari lost almost certainly both WDC and WCC because of that divorce that year.
     
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    I agree. As good as Brabham was, and even though the Ferrari was heavy, thirsty and not as powerful as advertised, most of their defeats that year came from reliability issues. I think Surtees had the mechanical sensitivity that Bandini and Scarfiotti lacked, and I think that some of the mechanical faults the car exhibited were due to the drivers. It would have been close, but Surtees would have scored just enough points to beat Black Jack. As for the WCC, I don't think either team got many points from their second drivers (Monza notwithstanding). That would have been close as well.
     
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