F1 Meeting = Minor Changes for 2019

Deletion of MGU-H exhaust energy recovery.

^^^^ Sissies ^^^^

 

Sounds like they are pretty happy with the way things are. Except the ever concerning biometric glove issue.

 

What's meant by 'separating the weight of the car from the driver'?

 

Now they're going to be controlling the cars on track from the garage on a wireless simulator.

Next they're working on robotic pit stops with auto tire changers to eliminate all hazards.

 

So even the fat girls can have a drive - it’s all in the name of being PC these days...... at the moment, you can have a heavier car if you put your driver on a crash diet, but now they’ve realised drives are being unfairly tainted into thinking they are fat, and that’s not fair on the poor luvvies. Won’t change a damn thing, of course, because they’ll still have to be skinny little boys, but it makes the FIA sound more progressive and 21st century!

 

Yep, we’ve ALL been upset that they haven’t introduced these sooner, fantastic life saving devices in all those crashes.

Just one thing, WTF is a biometric glove?

 

plans to remove driver weight from the minimum weight limit for cars.

 

biometric gloves will be used next season in a bid to help medical personnel better assess the physical condition of a driver after accidents.

 

I like how they give themselves an out for the aero. Next time one of you find yourselves in pit lane, ask one of the team principals wtf their problem is. I will in Austin.

 

But what is a biometric glove, I see what it does, but how? Any photos?

 

looks just like a regular glove.....with sensors inside...then a small wire coming out of it where it "jacks" or "hooks-up" to connect.

 

If they do that they would have to change the minimum width of the tub so they can shoe horn there fat butt into it. Current F1 cars are so small I cannot fit one of my size 15 4E feet into one. On top of that the teams would have to beef up the tub to handle the stress of the drivers "added mass"

 

LOL I called it

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/145926935/

 

Not enough people deciding the future. They should invite the UN and 100 random fans and the grid kids.

 

So really, nothing is changing. Just getting rid of one whatever the **** that box does. The cars will still sound like crap. What about maxing rpm? Twin turbo? What the hell? It’s the same damn thing it is now?

 

weeeeell not really Chris with regards to the MGU-H. Losing the MGU-H will reduce the amount of time the drivers have access to the PU's full power and the driver will only get the full 1000hp for 33s per lap from the MGU-K. Right now the driver has enough energy from the MGU-H to have full power whenever they need it.

 

Then it will favor lighter drivers, yah? If so......as a guy who was called 'Pee Wee' as a kid; and have seen hockey and soccer disappear from aspirations of smaller people, I applaud the effort to have at least one of only two remaining sporting pursuits rewarding smaller people. The other one is a jockey. Suck it up, fatboys.

 

Yeah, but they still won’t hire big fat or tall drivers, as the minimum weight car still needs the minimum weight driver to carry oround the circuit, every ounce extra weight costs laptime

 

Actually I was reading that the current rules favour lighter guys/gals because they can use ballast to balance the car while the heavier guys had no ballast. The new rules mean no more ballast for anyone.

 

I don’t know...removing the energy recovery from the exhaust COULD increase the noise. Noise is energy...some of the energy that is currently being harvested that won’t be next year.

 

Deletion of the MGU-H is proposed for 2021.

 

Now, I'm concerned that it might not be safe for me to go for a drive without my biometric gloves. Anybody know where I can get a few pairs? I'll need some fo reach car and my passengers.

 

RESULT!
• Simplified front wing, with a larger span, and low outwash potentia
• Simplified front brake duct with no winglets
• Wider and deeper rear wing

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The decision to drop the MGU-H is a "backwards step" for Formula 1's 2021 engine regulations, according to Mercedes' powertrain boss Andy Cowell.

Last year the FIA outlined a detailed plan to lose the thermal energy recovery element for the next generation of F1's hybrid engines, which it reiterated last month.

Honda technical director Toyoharu Tanabe said his company would "miss" the component, and F1's other engine manufacturers agreed they supported keeping the MGU-H when asked by Autosport.

Cowell, the managing director of Mercedes High Performance Powertrains, said it will remove "a lot of energy" from the engines.

He explained the MGU-H provides 60% of the electric energy used to power the other part of the energy recovery system, the MGU-K, and contributes 5% of the current engine's thermal efficiency.

"The MGU-H has been blamed for the lack of noise and for high complexity," said Cowell.

"It's been referred to as a miracle. There are four technology companies that have made it work.

"To make up the power difference we're going to have to increase the fuel flow rate, which is a backwards step.

"It's not progress. It feels like a backwards step when the development work has been done."

Cowell said engine manufacturers would now need to develop anti-lag systems for the turbocharged engines as the MGU-H is "the most marvellous anti-lag system because it gives you speed control".

He added: "We'll have to come up with various systems and devices and that will probably involve burning some fuel through the exhaust, which doesn't feel the most honourable thing to do as an engineer.

"But it's a balance between technology and entertainment and we've got to get that balance right."

Ferrari technical director Mattia Binotto said Cowell's examples were evidence of the MGU-H being a "fantastic, efficient component".

However, he said the need for compromise in pursuit of "better noise, simplification and costs" is why Ferrari "accept" the MGU-H will be removed.

"When you are dealing with compromises there are always different opinions," he said.

"It doesn't mean we need to standardise all the power unit components.

"It's important we maintain the challenge of these technologies and maintain the engine as a competitive differentiator between the manufacturers because that is the DNA of F1."

Renault's engine technical director Remi Taffin said all four manufacturers had outlined their desire to keep the MGU-H as part of an "initial proposal".

He claimed that there were now "alternatives", and Renault would find other uses for the technology.

"We are trying to have good discussions to go forward for keeping developing this power unit in a different way," he said.

"We did a lot of work on the MGU-H, it's working, it's a very nice part. It's not something we will put on the shelf and forget.

"We have other projects, we have Formula E.

"The MGU-H is not directly translatable but it's a high-speed motor, it's quite a unique technology, and we're not going to put that on the shelf."