F1 owner wants grid to be reversed.

i think they should follow GP2 format .

 

Who would want to qualify as quickly as possible to start as far back as possible?

 

I don´t support this idea but the basis of it is correct.

In this day and age, the difference between the cars in qualifyingsetup and race-setup is very small. There are no longer qualifying-engines, no qualifying tires and to top it all off, the cars need to start the race on the amount of fuel used in qualifying. That means that the order that results from qualifying is basically the order of the race, or at least the first half of the race. So very little chance of on track duelling, let alone actual overtaking.

There should be a bigger difference between qualifying and race setup, so that the cars that do good in qualifying not necessarily have to be the quickest cars in the race. Then and only then overtaking becomes more likely.

 

The fast teams would sandbag qualifying so they could start closer to the front, then kick it in gear and lead the race.

Outside of spec vehicles to even the field, or give every team teh same budget to play with, F1 is going to have a huge difference in the teams competiting. For me, its the technology that is interesting about F1. Not a big fan when its not competitive...that's want I want in my racing....otherwise its just a parade of really cool cars.

 

Love Ferrari... but have to admit, nothing is more dull than seeing one team dominate the entire season.

Its like you have 2 super teams, and then the rest of the field is racing in a different series.

The best races I've seen, are without a doubt the one's where rain messes up qualifying and you get a reversed grid.

Pray for rain, or get use to F1 not being a very interesting race, but a parade of technology

 

You'd get points for qualifying well, but the question is how to structure that so as to offset the advantage of starting up front on tracks with few passing opportunities in cars built in such a way as to make running close to (much less passing) the car in front of you so tough.

 

The way I read the suggestion, the starting grid will be based on the championship standing, not on qualifying times, so if this was to be implemented I guess there would be no more qualifying.

I must say I like the idea, and with the right adjustments it would clearly make the races more exciting to watch.

 

Interesting thought...points to qualify well, points to finish well, points for laps led, etc.

Problem like in most races, the backmarkers with less experience of running side-by-side. More exagerated in F1 where passing is a rarity, unlike IRL, Champ, NASCAR, et al.

F1 cars don't like to run close in current configuration, so this could possibly lead to a fundamental shift into cars designed to run in close quarters, side-by-side, passing, etc. Get away from the clean air and fly gig that we currently see. Currently, you clear Turn 1 free and clear, barring any technical failures, you are clear to run the position you are in until the finish.


I'm sure its been asked here before and probably had a very heated debate... But if you weren't Ferrari fans and Ferrari wasn't so dominate in F1, would you still be "as" interested in following F1 as it is currently run?

 

2 races, 45 mins each race. 2nd race position will be reversed based on the 1st race.

 

+1 Now you're getting somewhere.

OK, who's willing to put Bernie in a box until a new format gets approved?

 

I have seen this happen in small town races, but on the Pro level. I don't see it happening,

 

I think you're right bout it not happening. In some of the Formula Ford races I did the first half of the grid was reversed; if you had 20 cars, then pole
started 10th, 2nd started 9th etc. while the back of the field remained unchanged. It made for much more interesting racing.

 

So I guess the punishment for a driver rule infraction would be you must start at the front of the grid...

 

The only way this might have some form of weight would to have a rather large purse for qualifying fastest with each position getting some cash for each position they place with the slowest cars getting nothing. Then putting the fastest cars in say the middle row. Not sure of a way to disburse the other cars.

Not real sure this would work.

 

I think I've got a shoe box I can spare- more than big enough, and I'm only a size 9.

 

Why not just do reverse grid order based on championship points? I don't support this idea but taking qualifying out of the equation eliminates sandbagging?

 

Qualifying = $$$$

 

I'm glad to see that Patrick Head finally shares the vision I stated on here years ago:

Reverse the grid and every race will be as entertaining as a wet race or one with a loopy protester running across the track.

Forget qualifying. Make it either an additional test session or as Ira suggested, keep it and instead of grid positions hand out additional WDC points.

 

Patrick Head is only saying that because his car is cr@p ... thus this would make a pole position possible .

Removing the need to improve yourself and qualify would finally make F1 less plausible than Days of Our Lives ... some want that sort of "drama", some actually want to find out who is really the fastest.
Pete

 

Some want to see real passing for position as opposed to a procession of cars departing and arriving in the exact order they qualified the previous day.

Reverse grid doesn't remove "the need to improve", quite the opposite: It forces the best to fight their way through the field back to the top.

 

I don't see the idea of a reverse grid working unless you have 2 races.

 

It works very well: Reverse it based on championship points (or final race positions for those without points). You don't need two races. You trade the relative excitement of qualifying for a superb race guaranteed every time around.

Just think back of what races in the past were the best: Always those where the front runners had to cut their way through the field because of some circumstances/mishap.

BTW: With the reversed grid, the 2 races/engine rule should be abolished: That causes drivers to be way too conservative. Give 'em a fresh engine every race and force them to pass 20 cars and you don't need seats anymore in the grandstands.

 

Like Fangio back in 1956 at the German GP, Jackie Stewart at Belgium, Jim Clark at Monza, Ayrton Senna (1988) Brasil, etc. The cream rises to the top in those occasions.